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Started by Chocofreak13, January 25, 2009, 06:17:35 PM

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Red-Machine

Lol, I was thinking they would be assisted by rocket boosters!
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Smokey

Heh, even if a human we're to go in a rocket wich traveled at 5,000,000KM/H he wouldn't reach half a lightyear in 90 years...
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VonDaab

Hey, I found a photo of Smokey in his teens

Smokey

More like this dude in that white suit...

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IanDanKilmaster

There's no possible face-saving response to that one, Smokey XD.  I'm dying of laughter... that was a good one VonDaab...

Well, obviously Nej's riddle is a classic wordplay riddle and not a logic problem... See this:

QuoteReshape it a bit, and it'll sound just right.

Chances are it's one of those things I'm gonna have to read like twenty times before I get it...

The Choice of a New Generation.

NejinOniwa

That's a good one, smokey!
Not the answer I was thinking of, but that one's a more blunt approach to it, I guess. ^^


When I said reshape, I meant you should think it like this:

Traveling at the speed of light, how many years would a human live?
(assuming the spacecraft doesn't collapse etc. and yes I know lightspeed travel isn't actually possible, but I say it is now, so go with it.)
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Smokey

57 days and 6 hours before he/she gets murdered out of boredom... ^_^
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IanDanKilmaster

Then Smokey was on the right track - he just needs to remove distance from the equation.  Also, are we sure average lifespan is 90?  I guess the number here is mostly arbitrary as long as he uses the proper formula (like the one he used to determine the age in Julian years after traveling 3 lightyears).

Damn, I'm still amused by that picture XD... I'm a very sad individual...

Gah, relativity headache ><.  I was about to perform the calculations, but I realized something - how the hell does one measure time traveling light speed?  Would a person actually age?  In any case, in a period of time that appeared as 90 years to a person in space (given that perspective doesn't somehow change at lightspeed travel) a person would be aged 1,942,655,127,840 Julian years - at least according to my math.

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NejinOniwa

But there's one thing you have to keep in mind...

THE TUNNEL IS ONLY SO WIDE
:V
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Chocofreak13

;__; i'm in astronomy....i should know this! well, if just goes to show that i lack the sophistimacatated brain that all of you possess.

well......maybe not, but i'm smart in other ways. :3

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aurora your answer was right. nejin "love hina" is not counted as a classical work, i am sorry.

oh, and your computer could also be slow from all the worms and such you got from internet porn night. =D
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IanDanKilmaster

It helps to pay attention in class :P.

Of course, I'm one to talk, but I did pay attention in that class - it's why I passed with a C even w/out a book (we'd only cover half the material that would be on tests, the rest you were expected to read in book).  Anyway, what the hell is Nej going on about, is dis sum SyFy (har) reference I'm missing?  TUNNELTUNNELTUNNELTUNNEL, dammit I'm a doctor not a mole!

The Choice of a New Generation.

Smokey

Well traveling at the speed of light away from earth will make it impossibly complicated, since in that case Einsteins Relativity Theory kicks in, wich means that if you'd travel that direction at those speeds, time would for you go in a different "speed" so to say than on earth, and you can toss the books away... You'll need practical data on that and since mankind has only managed to make photons travel at more than lightspeed, we cannot measure the timespan of a human traveling at the speed of light away from eart... BTW even if we were to send a human out on such a quest, we wouldn't receive data on that matter in our lifespan, because our methods of communication are still traveling at the speed of light so if he were to travel 90 lightyears and then die, we would know about it in approximately 180 years, assuming the signal reaches that far and the signal is indeed transmitted at the speed of light to us...
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NejinOniwa

The answer is:

He can live for 90 years...from HIS viewpoint...

For some physics lesson: TIME GOES SLOWER WHEN YOU SPEED SHIT UP.
The tunnel is only so wide is a metaphor I often use when describing time to make n00bs understand (like the people in my physics B class) special relativity. Think of time as a tunnel. You go from point A to point B in this tunnel in a certain amount of time.
There is air in this tunnel. As one travels through it, the resistance from the air slows you. Depending on how fast you travel, time goes at different speeds.
Now here comes the tricky part: The larger one is, the more air resistance slows you. Thus, the bigger you grow, the slower you get. As you approach lightspeed you will travel slower and slower through the tunnel. However you cannot reach lightspeed because this disallows you from traveling through the tunnel at all: THE TUNNEL IS ONLY 299,792,458 m/s WIDE. Thus if one does reach lightspeed one stops ones travel through the tunnel, and moves within the same frame. As such it does not matter how long he lives in that state, because we cannot perceive the changes; That means, from our PoV, he should be able to live for as long as his craft can maintain lightspeed, providing this is above 90 years from his viewpoint, ergo 90 LY; however this is not true since we cannot perceive (and thus not age) anything at lightspeed since our senses are dependent on time. Thus, he is able to live for as long as his craft can maintain lightspeed, PLUS 90-his current age. (this is providing that he stops moving at relativistic speeds once he gets out of lightspeed).

Damn, that was a fux'd up question, wasn't it -w-;


Now then, for some crap.
I create, I destroy, I claim, I annihilate. All things I make are my own arms. I am hunted by humans, aliens and zealots alike. Few stand with me, and all I fight - all but the one who made me.

WHO(what) AM I?
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Red-Machine

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NejinOniwa

...I don't even see where you are coming from here. >.>
(that means no, you're wrong)
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