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[IanDanKilmaster]

And what happens Ireland? 0o I missed that information.

Only in Smokey's fancies.

[Vaereth]

So thats why I can't find any information about this thing XD

Why is legislation written in such incomprehensible language?? It is hard to understand what the goverment was meaning

[IanDanKilmaster]

Why is legislation written in such incomprehensible language?? It is hard to understand what the goverment was meaning

Personally, I think it's intended to be that way - the wording makes the intent difficult to pin down.  At least, I believe such is the intent with much American legislation.  Doing it that way delegates responsibility to lower-level governments to "interpret" what is meant.

[Vaereth]

Yeah sometimes the laws can have "double interpretations". But I think  writting the laws in this way causes more evasions than it was supposed to ;018

[IanDanKilmaster]

I would agree, in some cases it's good, but in others it's feckdamn headache.  Take for example, the US Bill of Rights, especially the 10th Amendment, which is generally considered the "States' Rights" Amendment, but due to wording is effectively neutered when it comes to meaningful legislation.  All these states passing propositions permitting gay marriage would be damned if the President for some reason decided to add an Amendment banning such unions.  Luckily with our current leader, I don't see that happening, but he's already confronted with a similar issue involving the DEA raiding medicinal cannabis dispensaries in states that have propositions permitting such facilities.

[Vaereth]

True. Though I haven't study yet our constitution (as I know there is no well-known additions to it about civil rights) I can certainly says that there are a lot of big "holes" in Russian enterprising legislation. For example in some laws where nonprofit companies rights and liabilities are described there is no mention about their secondary liability. And the only source of this knowledge is judicial opinion (or court practice...which world is more correct in this cause?) which isn't often unanimous.
And after seeing this I am not surprised that there is not enough nonprofit companies in my country though they are needed much.

[Smokey]

oh-oh...politics...

RED ALERT, RED ALERT! ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! POLITICS ARE BEING DISCUSSED!

FIRE TOPIC-CHANGING TORPEDO FROM TUBES ONE AND THREE!

So, anyone seen Angels and Demons yet?

[Vaereth]

Not yet ^_^  I bought tickets on nearest weekend only yesterday. Interesting will  it be as mystic as The Da Vinci Code ^_^

[IanDanKilmaster]

Well, I feel inclined to also point out that not all faulty legislation is the result of intentionally vague wording, sometimes it's simply outmoded due to a lack of appropriate foresight.  For example, the Writer's Guild of America has to feckin' strike every decade because they keep setting up terms for royalties that deal strictly with contemporary media formats, rather than find a way to write up a deal that would cover all possible formats (including future media).  Perhaps that's not the best example, but consider if you will that this planet and the beings that dwell on it will actually be around for a few more centuries, would laws written now actually be applicable then?  So perhaps those that penned your country's laws regarding NPOs may have not foreseen the need for provisions regarding secondary liability.  In any case, writing legislation is no small task and I'm very impressed whenever a law is made that's not only fair but also effectively enforced.

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RED ALERT, RED ALERT! ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! POLITICS ARE BEING DISCUSSED!

Normally such is the case, but I would say our discussion was hardly controversial (save my mentioning of gay marriage and the DEA).  Still me thinks you may be on to something and the subject should be changed.

So, anyone seen Angels and Demons yet?

XD Great idea Smokey, we'll drop one flamebait topic for another, eh?  On topic, no I haven't seen it, nor have I seen The Da Vinci Code.  Now, you should probably already know it would have nothing to do with what any religious leader has had to say about it.  It's just that it's not the kind of thing that interests me.  Mayhaps I'm just too nerdy to appreciate that kinda thing, ya know?

[Vaereth]

So perhaps those that penned your country's laws regarding NPOs may have not foreseen the need for provisions regarding secondary liability

Yeah I just looked some older versions of this laws and so that some items was wrote in USSR period. So if these laws was created in that time it is not suprised that the secondary liability isn't mentioned (in USSR time this concept was absent)

I'm very impressed whenever a law is made

Yeah it is a great work cuz it involes induced thinking which is a very rare ability ^_^

[IanDanKilmaster]

Yeah it is a great work cuz it involes induced thinking which is a very rare ability

Indeed, which is why it's rare to find a law that can reliably avert exploitation.

[Chocofreak13]

how....long....?? how long have i been gone!??? *rolls on floor in fetal position*


btw, idk, you only knew how old i was because you pay attention. :3

Added after 13 minutes:

ooo ooo!! yesterday they rickrolled the mall!!! the song came on and i was like, lol, rickroll!

[IanDanKilmaster]

how....long....?? how long have i been gone!??? *rolls on floor in fetal position*

I think you've only really missed a couple of days (out of about two weeks) where there was any notable activity.

btw, idk, you only knew how old i was because you pay attention. :3

Well, it probably also has to do with how well I remember numbers.  I hate math, but I seem to have a knack for remembering numerical sequences.
PH33R TEH MAN WITH TEH CODEZ

[Chocofreak13]

p$$h, | r3$p3(7 n4w7 ur 1337 0r (0d3r $k|11z.  :rolleyes:

[VonDaab]

blarghjsfsgddbvcdwewgrhnbvcd hay im speaking languages.