OS-tan theories and disscusion

[C-Chan]

Fufufu... sorry for the small disappearing act.  ^___^

No one can beat z/OS-sama, can they?  

Oh now, she's still proprietary, and proprietary-tans can have more exploitable weaknesses than they'll admit to.  ^.^

Besides, ever watched War of the Worlds?  Sometimes the LARGEST opponents can be taken down by the littlest things.  ^___^

That, and there's also the latest super virus-tans that have emerged, and are wandering about getting larger and more uncontrollabe.  

HAHAHAHAHA! No. Too much clashing.

"I want to be the one to initiate the spell!"
"No, I'm a sorceress, darnit!"
"Hey! You just set my head on fire! I'm suing!"
"Eww... I don't want to be next to HER!"
"Don't make me smack you with my suitcase..."
"Can I be next to Unix-sama? Tee hee..."
"AAAAAAUGH! FSCK THIS! I HAD ENOUGH OF ALL YOUR BULL****!"

Like in my demonstration!

You got it!  ^__~

Besides, when you think about it, there's yet to be a situation where anyone has to take on the Mainframe-tans.  The market is already doing a good job of making them obsolete by attrition.  ^^'

Why hire the services of a 200ft diva, when an 18ft Beowulf Cluster-tan is all you need to run a business?  ^.^

What, no maniacal laughter from someone of her stature with an ego to match?  

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[whispering] Maybe in private.... But shhhhhhh....  ^.^;

It is not completely surprising that SunOS-tan didn't choose to change her identity. Most OS-tans who had identity changes didn't choose to.
Ex: Linspire-tan (got sued by M$ to force name change), Mac OS 7.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 8 to exploit a legal loophole in liscensing Mac Clones- they were only liscensed to run Mac OS 7.x), Mac OS 8.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 9 but changed back to 8.7 or Sonata because of the lawsuit from OS-9's company but the suit got thrown out, Apple allowed to use Mac OS 9).

I kinda figured that you could relate to that, much the same way as you can relate with Lisa-chan's conflicting emotions compared to System 6-san's.  ^__^

Hey, what are you doing-- Aaaaaaaaah! That must be revenge for me putting you in a bed of lettuce and tomato while you were sleeping! I deserve it! *sniffle*

Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!!  You DID?!!!!!!!!!  >0<

Ooooooooh!!!

*starts doubling pace of dirt digging*

And to prevent that from ever happening....

*douses self with habanero sauce*

There we go,... now I'm only tasty to a smaller demographic.  >v<

Btw, when was EXEC first released? I could not find a release date for it.

The UNIVAC I was first built in 1951, created in part by the original ENIAC designers.  You can read more about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIVAC_I

I did however goof, since the EXEC OS wasn't actually introduced until the UNIVAC 1101 line, almost decade later.  That's the reason why GMOS-sama is technically the first TRUE OS-tan ever (created in 1955).

Fufufu.... buuuuuuuuuuut.... since we're already blurring the line between hardware and software anyway,... let's just conveniently sweep that fact under the rug and work with it....  ^_______^;

But here is a preconcept sketch!

Went with the color scheme of the UNIVAC machines (although the dark blue hair was just supposed to be a throwback to Mahoro, her anime inspiration)

Since I had a hard time trying to put a bunch of red and gold gems on her dress (what I originally intended, to refer to the blinking red lights with gold rims), I decided to give her some gold and ruby jewelry instead (and I thought going with the gem-studded dress would have looked too extravagent)

Woohoo!  I don't know how, but I was absoluely certain you were going to draw an EXEC-sama sketch.  ^___^

Very happy to see you make great use of my design suggestion for her clothing -- it looks old fashioned yet exotic, not unlike Siya's GMOS-sama design.  No doubt it'll be a beautiful treat to behold when its colored.  ^___^

The hair, though, needs some adjustment, as I originally thought she was a bridesmaid.  ^^'.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but by ponytail I meant something like the last 20 feet or so of her hair is actually thinner than the rest (a little less than a head's thickness), and is either tied in ribbons or braided to make it easier to move around (like thick a rope).  The main portion IS thick and solid like you have it drawn -- but it's precisely because of this that she can only really have it loose, as putting so much pressure on one single focal point (e.g., the top of her head) would be FAR too painful with all that weight. ^~^;

Try it with her hair cascading downward -- thin around the top of her head, but widening to a veritable mane around shoulder-length.  ^__^

Whoa... I didn't know it was to that extent! I bet that she has a huge fear of scissors and barbershops...

Just scissors will do.  Given what I mentioned above, she doesn't really like moving around too much if she doesn't have to.  The vintage-tans did build her a cart for all that hair some while back, but at her age it's a bit hard to handle.  ^___^'

[Aurora Borealis]

Oh now, she's still proprietary, and proprietary-tans can have more exploitable weaknesses than they'll admit to.  ^.^

Besides, ever watched War of the Worlds?  Sometimes the LARGEST opponents can be taken down by the littlest things.  ^___^

I haven't watched War of the Worlds, but I do know that largest of opponents can still be taken down by blinding them, tripping them and possibly hitting them in the shin. And giant robots can be taken down by pressing the big selfdestruct button on their backs!

That, and there's also the latest super virus-tans that have emerged, and are wandering about getting larger and more uncontrollabe.  

That's right... IIRC, there is a virus-tan mentioned that could affect the mainframes.

You got it!  ^__~

Whoo-hoo!

Besides, when you think about it, there's yet to be a situation where anyone has to take on the Mainframe-tans.  The market is already doing a good job of making them obsolete by attrition.  ^^'

HAHAHAHA! Although still powerful, they have lost their prestige! Aside from the military, is there anyone else who still uses mainframes these days?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!!  You DID?!!!!!!!!!  >0<

Ooooooooh!!!

*starts doubling pace of dirt digging*

Aaaaaaaah! Can't you take a joke?! ;__; It's getting hard to breathe here! *cough*

And to prevent that from ever happening....

*douses self with habanero sauce*

There we go,... now I'm only tasty to a smaller demographic.  >v<

Well, you are right. I don't think most people would dare try anything doused in habanero sauce. Too hot to handle for most! However I actually do have a friend who loves spicy food and hot sauce and habanero is not too hot for him!

The UNIVAC I was first built in 1951, created in part by the original ENIAC designers.  You can read more about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIVAC_I

I did however goof, since the EXEC OS wasn't actually introduced until the UNIVAC 1101 line, almost decade later.  That's the reason why GMOS-sama is technically the first TRUE OS-tan ever (created in 1955).

Fufufu.... buuuuuuuuuuut.... since we're already blurring the line between hardware and software anyway,... let's just conveniently sweep that fact under the rug and work with it....  ^_______^;

That is strange, so that means that GMOS-sama and GENIAC-chan are the two oldest characters? (or does EXEC-sama also represent the all the UNIVAC machines)

Woohoo!  I don't know how, but I was absoluely certain you were going to draw an EXEC-sama sketch.  ^___^

Well, of course! That was why I was asking about her appearance! ;012

Very happy to see you make great use of my design suggestion for her clothing -- it looks old fashioned yet exotic, not unlike Siya's GMOS-sama design.  No doubt it'll be a beautiful treat to behold when its colored.  ^___^

Aw geez... Making the color version is going to be tricky, trying to show off her mega long hair when I only have so much picture space to work with!

The hair, though, needs some adjustment, as I originally thought she was a bridesmaid.  ^^'.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but by ponytail I meant something like the last 20 feet or so of her hair is actually thinner than the rest (a little less than a head's thickness), and is either tied in ribbons or braided to make it easier to move around (like thick a rope).  The main portion IS thick and solid like you have it drawn -- but it's precisely because of this that she can only really have it loose, as putting so much pressure on one single focal point (e.g., the top of her head) would be FAR too painful with all that weight. ^~^;

Try it with her hair cascading downward -- thin around the top of her head, but widening to a veritable mane around shoulder-length.  ^__^

I knew something did seem strange about the hair. Thanks for pointing that out. Made a quick sketch with updated hairstyle:

Just scissors will do.  Given what I mentioned above, she doesn't really like moving around too much if she doesn't have to.  The vintage-tans did build her a cart for all that hair some while back, but at her age it's a bit hard to handle.  ^___^'

I don't blame her for not wanting to move around too much, it's hard to do so with all of that hair!

[C-Chan]

I haven't watched War of the Worlds, but I do know that largest of opponents can still be taken down by blinding them, tripping them and possibly hitting them in the shin. And giant robots can be taken down by pressing the big selfdestruct button on their backs!  

That's right.  ^.^

And that's fine about WOTW,... I don't like any of the movies anyway.  I should've said if you ever "read" War of the Worlds.  WAY better.  ^___^

HAHAHAHA! Although still powerful, they have lost their prestige! Aside from the military, is there anyone else who still uses mainframes these days?

Just company that still have them left over and can't afford the cost of switching to something new.  And then there's stuff like airports, train stations, and other placess that require massive traffic of critical data. ^^;

Plus there's also new mainframes that are smaller, slimmer and more energy efficient, and hence great alternatives to server farms -- but they still cost A LOT.  >v<

Well, you are right. I don't think most people would dare try anything doused in habanero sauce. Too hot to handle for most! However I actually do have a friend who loves spicy food and hot sauce and habanero is not too hot for him!

Well actually... I'm kinda like that too.  ^^;

*licks self*  Mmmm,... I'm tasty.

Okay, you can come out now.  You're forgiven,....  ^___^

Here, let me lend you a hand....

*steps into shaky dirt and falls into ditch along with Aurora*

Whoops!  ^^;

....

Okay, so we're both stuck now.  ^___^;

That is strange, so that means that GMOS-sama and GENIAC-chan are the two oldest characters? (or does EXEC-sama also represent the all the UNIVAC machines)

Well I think at this point, it's beter to have EXEC-sama represent all the UNIVAC machines.  After all, there's supposed to be an EXEC I, II and III, but I already copped out by creating just one of them.  Besides, it would weaken GENIAC's storyline if EXEC-sama were younger.  ^^

And of course, they're only the two oldest living OS-tans.  Before them were the ancients, such as ENIAC-sama and Colossus-sama (an ancestral Mainframe-tan).

Aw geez... Making the color version is going to be tricky, trying to show off her mega long hair when I only have so much picture space to work with!

Of course I can help ya out.  ^^
Wouldn't be fair to let you do all the work, when it was my ideas that made it so hard. ^___^'

I knew something did seem strange about the hair. Thanks for pointing that out. Made a quick sketch with updated hairstyle:

Ahhhh,... now THERE we go!  THAT'S a roll-up of age, grace, wisdom and beauty I was looking for!  And then the elegant manner in which her hair is coiled down before her in order to take the picture,... beautiful!  

Don't know about you, but this looks like a Keeper to me! ^v^

Added after 4 minutes:

BTW, not sure if this is obvious, but EXEC-sama has a bit of Rapunzel influence too.  Though not really critical, you might be interested in checking out the original fairy tale for backstory ideas.  ^.^

[Aurora Borealis]

That's right.  ^.^

And that's fine about WOTW,... I don't like any of the movies anyway.  I should've said if you ever "read" War of the Worlds.  WAY better.  ^___^

No, I haven't read it either. But I looked it up on Wikipedia to see what it is like. Looks great!

Incidentally, with movies based on novels, the book is generally better than the movie version.

Just company that still have them left over and can't afford the cost of switching to something new.  And then there's stuff like airports, train stations, and other placess that require massive traffic of critical data. ^^;

Oh! But at least those that still have them for the first reason may have a some bragging rights, that their computers have lasted for so long! Should have figured that airports, train stations and such still use them. ^^;

Plus there's also new mainframes that are smaller, slimmer and more energy efficient, and hence great alternatives to server farms -- but they still cost A LOT.  >v<

Interesting! I assume since mainframes are so powerful, they should last a lot longer which is part of why they are so costly. They are an investment!

For example: I forgot the name of this mainframe, but there was a million-dollar mainframe computer made in 1976 that a clock speed of 80 MHz and would be the fastest computer around for about 20 years!

Well actually... I'm kinda like that too.  ^^;

*licks self*  Mmmm,... I'm tasty.

Okay, you can come out now.  You're forgiven,....  ^___^

Thank you!

Here, let me lend you a hand....

*steps into shaky dirt and falls into ditch along with Aurora*

Whoops!  ^^;

....

Okay, so we're both stuck now.  ^___^;

T__T

Well I think at this point, it's beter to have EXEC-sama represent all the UNIVAC machines.  After all, there's supposed to be an EXEC I, II and III, but I already copped out by creating just one of them.  Besides, it would weaken GENIAC's storyline if EXEC-sama were younger.  ^^

Good choice making the EXEC versions into one character (cuts down on characters, is just plain easier) and having her represent all the UNIVAC machines! If EXEC-sama were younger than GENIAC-chan, it just wouldn't be right.

And of course, they're only the two oldest living OS-tans.  Before them were the ancients, such as ENIAC-sama and Colossus-sama (an ancestral Mainframe-tan).

Computers that didn't have OSes and therefore had to be operated by people... That's ancient!

But don't forget Antikythera Mechanism-tan!

Of course I can help ya out.  ^^
Wouldn't be fair to let you do all the work, when it was my ideas that made it so hard. ^___^'

I like a challenge but you can help me out if you want! That would be great because we pretty much created her together!

Ahhhh,... now THERE we go!  THAT'S a roll-up of age, grace, wisdom and beauty I was looking for!  And then the elegant manner in which her hair is coiled down before her in order to take the picture,... beautiful!  

Don't know about you, but this looks like a Keeper to me! ^v^

Okay, that's a keeper!

BTW, not sure if this is obvious, but EXEC-sama has a bit of Rapunzel influence too.  Though not really critical, you might be interested in checking out the original fairy tale for backstory ideas.  ^.^

I've read the synopsis and I have some ideas!

-EXEC-sama may have lived in a tower in her youth like Rapunzel did, or possibly put in that tower after being discontinued.
-She was still being cared for by employees after discontinuement.
-But she still felt lonely because her company did not want her to mingle with the 'lesser' OSes and computers.
-During the night, some OS-tans kept her company and talked with her
-Luckily, EXEC-sama's caretakers/employees only entered her tower during the daytime
-An employee finds out about EXEC-sama having 'friends' over at her tower.
-The employees are angry at first and banish those other OS-tans from the tower
-But that didn't stop them! They get caught again, but this time the employees consider that EXEC-sama is a lot happier with thost other OS-tans around and allow her to leave the tower to be with them.
-These other OS-tans take her to where they live... the Binteeji Renmei!

[C-Chan]

Stand by on this one.  ^.^

*starts typing response*

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Incidentally, with movies based on novels, the book is generally better than the movie version.

The 1980's version of "The Shining" is a notable exception.  ^^'

Oh! But at least those that still have them for the first reason may have a some bragging rights, that their computers have lasted for so long! Should have figured that airports, train stations and such still use them. ^^;

Nah trust me, it's rarely something to brag about.  ^^;

Or rather,... maybe a few IT and software engineers do (you know, the ones that can't think beyond M$ products),... but the company execs themselves only brag about profits.  ^___^;

Interesting! I assume since mainframes are so powerful, they should last a lot longer which is part of why they are so costly. They are an investment!

For example: I forgot the name of this mainframe, but there was a million-dollar mainframe computer made in 1976 that a clock speed of 80 MHz and would be the fastest computer around for about 20 years!

In a client/server setup, for example, you can have powerful server stacks that can virtualize full operating systems for hundreds or thousands of thin clients....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

...cutting the cost of hardware and software maintenance significantly, while still keeping thin clients equipped with at least the basic application suite for getting the work done.

Mainframes have been doing this for decades, mostly with terminal sessions and other time-sharing methods, but the newer mainframes are certainly capable of handling the equivalent thin-client load of a small server farm.  After all, a mainframe is really only a "super server" of sorts (and probably even phenomenal tennis players).  ^^;

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1276233,00.html

Bottom line is, if you consolidate so much computing power and, in the case of virtualized thin clients, active OS sessions for thousands of employees/students/agents/etc, it better be built rock-solid.  ^^;

If one of Google's servers goes down, it has hundreds more to pick up the slack.  But if all servers get replaced by a single monolithic mainframe, and something were to happen to it,.... chances are, it's gonna hurt more.  ^_______^;

Computers that didn't have OSes and therefore had to be operated by people... That's ancient!

But don't forget Antikythera Mechanism-tan!

I won't forget.  ^^;
Honestly, those, there's a whole section on primordial OS-tans that we could pour over, if we weren't already so caught up in existing projects.  ^____^'

I've read the synopsis and I have some ideas!

-EXEC-sama may have lived in a tower in her youth like Rapunzel did, or possibly put in that tower after being discontinued.
-She was still being cared for by employees after discontinuement.
-But she still felt lonely because her company did not want her to mingle with the 'lesser' OSes and computers.
-During the night, some OS-tans kept her company and talked with her
-Luckily, EXEC-sama's caretakers/employees only entered her tower during the daytime
-An employee finds out about EXEC-sama having 'friends' over at her tower.
-The employees are angry at first and banish those other OS-tans from the tower
-But that didn't stop them! They get caught again, but this time the employees consider that EXEC-sama is a lot happier with thost other OS-tans around and allow her to leave the tower to be with them.
-These other OS-tans take her to where they live... the Binteeji Renmei!

WOW!!!  There we go, that's absolutely PERFECT!!!  *v*

And if you think about it in those terms, EXEC-sama is really not all that different from GENIAC-chan.  She lived all her life in that tower, so never really got to see the world change around her, other than perhaps the occasional car/plane pass by and become more sophisticated as the years roll on.  And since the tower is likely medieval-like, there were no newspapers or radio or television or even any books.  It was like a 40 year slumber, except that she was fully awake to endure it all.

I also imagine her arrival at the Binteji would've been kinda cute. Even things as outdated now as VHS tapes, data casettes, vinyl records, carbon-filament light bulbs and steam cars (all still used by the vintage-tans to this very day) would've been like wonderful (or scary) works of sorcery for her.  

If not for such good friends as Amiga-sama, ][-chan, 1.0-chan and ZX-tan (and the eventual arrival of ITS-sama, as well as perhaps a visit from UNIX-sama), there would have been a risk of her begging to be locked back in the tower again.

Fortunately she endured it, and was rewarded with more knowledge during the past few years than she ever received in the previous 40 or so confined to virtual solitude.  And more importantly, she was around to help GENIAC-chan.  ^___^

[Bella]

I wish I could reply to all of this, as I see EXEC-sama is being designed as we speak...I'm going to save and read this over, though...

[Aurora Borealis]

Nah trust me, it's rarely something to brag about.  ^^;

Or rather,... maybe a few IT and software engineers do (you know, the ones that can't think beyond M$ products),... but the company execs themselves only brag about profits.  ^___^;

Hmm...  :-|

In a client/server setup, for example, you can have powerful server stacks that can virtualize full operating systems for hundreds or thousands of thin clients....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

...cutting the cost of hardware and software maintenance significantly, while still keeping thin clients equipped with at least the basic application suite for getting the work done.

Neat!

Mainframes have been doing this for decades, mostly with terminal sessions and other time-sharing methods, but the newer mainframes are certainly capable of handling the equivalent thin-client load of a small server farm.  After all, a mainframe is really only a "super server" of sorts (and probably even phenomenal tennis players).  ^^;

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1276233,00.html

Bottom line is, if you consolidate so much computing power and, in the case of virtualized thin clients, active OS sessions for thousands of employees/students/agents/etc, it better be built rock-solid.  ^^;

If one of Google's servers goes down, it has hundreds more to pick up the slack.  But if all servers get replaced by a single monolithic mainframe, and something were to happen to it,.... chances are, it's gonna hurt more.  ^_______^;

So most of the time, server farms are better than mainframes!

WOW!!!  There we go, that's absolutely PERFECT!!!  *v*

And if you think about it in those terms, EXEC-sama is really not all that different from GENIAC-chan.  She lived all her life in that tower, so never really got to see the world change around her, other than perhaps the occasional car/plane pass by and become more sophisticated as the years roll on.  And since the tower is likely medieval-like, there were no newspapers or radio or television or even any books.  It was like a 40 year slumber, except that she was fully awake to endure it all.

Well, of course there were still some OS-tans who stopped by every so often to talk to her at night and I thought that the caretakers would have brought some stuff for her to do so she didn't waste away completely. But for the most part, her life in the tower was very lonely.

I also imagine her arrival at the Binteji would've been kinda cute. Even things as outdated now as VHS tapes, data casettes, vinyl records, carbon-filament light bulbs and steam cars (all still used by the vintage-tans to this very day) would've been like wonderful (or scary) works of sorcery for her.  

Ha ha! Even the old-school stuff is insanely futuristic or works of sorcery to her! Although it's sad too

If not for such good friends as Amiga-sama, ][-chan, 1.0-chan and ZX-tan (and the eventual arrival of ITS-sama, as well as perhaps a visit from UNIX-sama), there would have been a risk of her begging to be locked back in the tower again.

I understand why she'd like Amiga-sama, ][-chan, Windows 1.0-chan, ZX-tan and ITS-sama but UNIX-sama?! That got me by surprise!

Fortunately she endured it, and was rewarded with more knowledge during the past few years than she ever received in the previous 40 or so confined to virtual solitude.  And more importantly, she was around to help GENIAC-chan.  ^___^

Indeed!
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Here are a couple new character concepts!

Visi On-tan
info:

http://toastytech.com/guis/vision.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiOn

technical details:
-a short-lived but influential GUI OS
-made and priced for high-end corporate workstations, also able to work with IBM PC compatibles running MS DOS
-ported to other OSes, such as C/PM or Unix (and has a Unix-based development environment)
-never popular due to high cost (up to $7,500) and minimum requirements (512 KB of RAM,a 5 MB hard drive) and slow performance
-influenced the development of Windows
-advanced for its time with many modern GUI features, even some that did not become commonplace until years later
-did not include a graphical file manager though
-was a huge success at its first demonstrations in 1982
-was supposed to be released in the summer of 1983 but wasn't released until December. Was already being declared vaporware
-during development, VisiCorp was under 'corporate civil war'
-recieved largely negative reviews after release, some claimed VisiOn to be 'the end of operating systems'
-Visi On sold to another company in 1984, never heard from again

character descriptions and backstory: A diva, aristocrat and business woman. In her youth she never mingled with the home users or home computer OS-tans. However, she did work with the Unices, DR-DOS-tan and MS-DOS-tan and admired Lisa-tan (another very high-end business OS).

She was a great success before her official release, in her first appearance to the public in 1982 and her future looked very promising. She was expected to make her official debut in the summer of 1983 but was delayed until December. During that time, people were already counting her out before she had a chance (which angered her a lot). Also during this time, her company was under a civil war which was emotionally scarring to her.

When she finally made her official release, the people were unimpressed and she got a lot of negative reviews. Despite being advanced in most ways, she was slow, demanding and picky. Another cause of her demise was the announcement of Windows in late 1983, which was said to have driven many of Visi On-tan's customers away. She was sold to another company in 1984 but was not heard from again or just no one cared. (however she is still alive)

And the worst part... *GASP* She has a vendetta against Windows 1.0-tan! (who herself was unremarkable and unsuccessful but still was a factor in the highly advanced Visi On-tan's demise, adding insult to injury here) Oh yeah, she's not fond of the other Windows-tans either. While her dislike for the Windows-tans does not runas deeply as OS/2-tan's hatred for them, Visi On-tan still got screwed over pretty badly! She strongly admires the Anti$oft Coalition.

Visi On-tan is however, friendly with the Unices as well as DR-DOS-tan. (I can also imagine her being friendly with IMSAI 8080-tan; a fellow formerly powerful business woman who suffered a similar fate to her) She also likes and has empathy for MS-DOS-tan (who back in the good ol' days was powerful, confident and influential, now these days just that shy little girl no one really notices anymore and is the unofficial house servant of the M$ Family) and wants to help her but cannot when all of those Windows-tans are there too!

personality-wise, she is disgruntled, homesick (but knowing that she can never return to her parent company) and thinks the everything and almost everyone has conspired against her. However she does cheer up in the company of those she is friendly with, knowing that there are still a few people who care.

I'm not sure if she would be in the CIOST or a wanderer. Her personality makes her fit in with the CIOST pretty well, but she is or at least was a diva who wouldn't consider fighting- she'd have one of her security people do that for her. But living on her own, she may have toughened up over the years and has learned to fight.
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And a really obscure Commodore-tan, Commodore 65-tan!

technical details:
-a prototype that was to be improved version of the Commodore 64
-development started in 1990, cancelled in 1991
-meant to have backwards compatibility with the C64 as well as have advanced features like those of the Amiga
-was never officially released, but the C65 prototypes were sold on the open market after Commodore's demise in 1994
-has a 3.54 MHz processor (much faster compared to the C64's 1 MHz)
-128 KB RAM expandable to 8 MB
-used Commodore Basic 10.0
-an internal 3.25" floppy drive was to be implemented but never was

character details: Appearance-wise, she has some resemblance to C64-tan but the biggest differences include the fact that C65-tan is considerably taller (I'd say in the upper 5' range), very clunky, and dressed like a pirate. She'd be dressed like a pirate because the C65 was never officially released but the prototypes were sold on the open market. She'd also be very determined and stubborn, still getting out into the world despite her disadvantages and not letting them get her down. She is seen as an inspiration to some, others... as insane. For affiliation, most likely a wanderer.

[C-Chan]

I wish I could reply to all of this, as I see EXEC-sama is being designed as we speak...I'm going to save and read this over, though...

Oh, you'll love all the stuff we written for EXEC-sama.  ^__^
Special thanks to Aurora-hime for the great character concept art.  ^.^

So most of the time, server farms are better than mainframes!

Well at least they're a helluva cheaper.  ^.^
Cluster up a whole bunch of cheap computers thrown in the trash by business, labs and universities, and you can create a mini super computer for literally the cost of cabling.  ^___^

But compared to modern mainframes, though, they're still relatively inefficient to them. Like with the Beowulf cluster analogy, you would need several such makeshift servers to equal the power of a single mainframe.  

Plus the energy expenditure and maintenance for all those machines will start to add up -- after a while, running and maintaining a single machine rather than 500 will start to look a bit attractive, upstart costs be damned....  ^.^;

http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3628646

Well, of course there were still some OS-tans who stopped by every so often to talk to her at night and I thought that the caretakers would have brought some stuff for her to do so she didn't waste away completely. But for the most part, her life in the tower was very lonely.

I forgot if it was you or Bella-hime (or both) when I discussed my thoughts on brains + activity.  If a living thing isn't stimulated regularly, then its brain will deteriorate sooner and its lifespan may shorten as a result. Her caretakers were at least sensible enough to deprive her of absolutely nothing to do -- but like a dog in a pound, she likely spent the majority of her time locked away without anything to do.

Or she might've taken up a small hobby at least -- with all that hair, surely she must've had plenty of time to develop 1001 ways to braid it.  ^.^

Ha ha! Even the old-school stuff is insanely futuristic or works of sorcery to her! Although it's sad too

Again, like with GENIAC-chan, it's only a little sad at first.  Once she starts getting used to it, progresses from cute, to interesting, to inspiring.  ^.^

I understand why she'd like Amiga-sama, ][-chan, Windows 1.0-chan, ZX-tan and ITS-sama but UNIX-sama?! That got me by surprise!

Fufufu!  Why does everyone think UNIX-sama is some kinda monster?  ^___^'

I mean,... okay she is a little.... *dodges boots*.... but in the case of EXEC-sama, there are two primary drivers in play:

1)  EXEC-sama is older than Grandma CTSS even!  Her efforts to vanquish Multics-sama and GECOS-sama notwithstanding, UNIX-sama still acknowledges a small bit of respect to her elders.  ^________^

2)  UNIX-sama is old as well.  You know, "birds of a feather", having something more in common than with the other "kids".  This is also the reason why, prior to GENIAC-chan, she'd spend most of her time having long conversations with ITS-sama, who at least is old enough to remember magnetic tapes.  ^__^

Visi On-tan
info:

character descriptions and backstory: A diva, aristocrat and business woman. In her youth she never mingled with the home users or home computer OS-tans. However, she did work with the Unices, DR-DOS-tan and MS-DOS-tan and admired Lisa-tan (another very high-end business OS).

Fufu... reading the encyclopedia entry, I kinda figured she'd be a huge Lisa-tan admirer.  I imagine she and Lisa-chan would be like old-fashioned aristocratic friends -- elegantly and courteously poking fun at eachother over fine tea and pâtisserie.

Actually, that could add an element of modern despair (oh noes! here comes more sap!)....

She views Lisa-chan as her senior and always admirered her strength -- but seeing her now in the state that she's in is rather devastating, and only strengthens her resolve that the entire world is conspiring against her.

Add again the fact that Windows 1.0-chan is not only NEAR her, but actually a close friend to Lisa-chan, and that's enough to send the poor Visi-tan's brain reeling.

personality-wise, she is disgruntled, homesick (but knowing that she can never return to her parent company) and thinks the everything and almost everyone has conspired against her. However she does cheer up in the company of those she is friendly with, knowing that there are still a few people who care.

I'm not sure if she would be in the CIOST or a wanderer. Her personality makes her fit in with the CIOST pretty well, but she is or at least was a diva who wouldn't consider fighting- she'd have one of her security people do that for her. But living on her own, she may have toughened up over the years and has learned to fight.

Well the CIOST is getting a little full....

And since she does sound a lot like an older OS/2-sama, and strongly admires the A$C,... hell, why not induct another member?  ^___^

She's in the company of OS/2-sama (a fellow Windows resenter), has the older TRSDOS-chan to reminisce about the good ol' days, and can achieve her MSDOS-chan fix with PCDOS-chan.  ^.^

AND... she has clerical experience, so already that makes her useful in the ever-underfunded A$C.  

And a really obscure Commodore-tan, Commodore 65-tan!

character details: Appearance-wise, she has some resemblance to C64-tan but the biggest differences include the fact that C65-tan is considerably taller (I'd say in the upper 5' range), very clunky, and dressed like a pirate. She'd be dressed like a pirate because the C65 was never officially released but the prototypes were sold on the open market. She'd also be very determined and stubborn, still getting out into the world despite her disadvantages and not letting them get her down. She is seen as an inspiration to some, others... as insane. For affiliation, most likely a wanderer.

Holy crap!  She's like an official "Bootleg"-tan -- or at least certainly the equivalent of one back in her day.  ^^'

She certainly has the same resoluteness as C64-tan,... but I do agree she likely wouldn't be... shall we say,... "complete in the head".  Course,... as a pirate,... that's kind of an asset....  ^^;

Wandering life fits her perfectly, especially given her tenuous existence.  ^__^'

[Aurora Borealis]

Oh, you'll love all the stuff we written for EXEC-sama.  ^__^
Special thanks to Aurora-hime for the great character concept art.  ^.^

Btw, I'm almost done with the EXEC-sama pic! All that remains to be finished is the background and a little more shading!

Well at least they're a helluva cheaper.  ^.^
Cluster up a whole bunch of cheap computers thrown in the trash by business, labs and universities, and you can create a mini super computer for literally the cost of cabling.  ^___^

But compared to modern mainframes, though, they're still relatively inefficient to them. Like with the Beowulf cluster analogy, you would need several such makeshift servers to equal the power of a single mainframe.  

Plus the energy expenditure and maintenance for all those machines will start to add up -- after a while, running and maintaining a single machine rather than 500 will start to look a bit attractive, upstart costs be damned....  ^.^;

Ohh... Mainframes have the advantage of being much more efficient!

I forgot if it was you or Bella-hime (or both) when I discussed my thoughts on brains + activity.  If a living thing isn't stimulated regularly, then its brain will deteriorate sooner and its lifespan may shorten as a result. Her caretakers were at least sensible enough to deprive her of absolutely nothing to do -- but like a dog in a pound, she likely spent the majority of her time locked away without anything to do.

I don't remember either but you are right about the brain deteriorating over time from lack of stimulation. For example, that may partly explain feral children and why they can barely learn language and other things.

Or she might've taken up a small hobby at least -- with all that hair, surely she must've had plenty of time to develop 1001 ways to braid it.  ^.^

That's a nice way to look at it! ;012

Again, like with GENIAC-chan, it's only a little sad at first.  Once she starts getting used to it, progresses from cute, to interesting, to inspiring.  ^.^

Awww.... sweet! ^^

Fufufu!  Why does everyone think UNIX-sama is some kinda monster?  ^___^'

Where to start...In a berzerk fit of rage she nearly killed her mother, she has the habit of whacking people with her metal staff, throwing books, and throwing boots! Oh, and she doesn't take compliments very well.

But we all know that she is very nice compared to the likes of Festering Hate-tan, who is (currently) THE most malicious malware-tan and is a zombie with the need for REVEEEEEEEEENGE!

I mean,... okay she is a little.... *dodges boots*.... but in the case of EXEC-sama, there are two primary drivers in play:

1)  EXEC-sama is older than Grandma CTSS even!  Her efforts to vanquish Multics-sama and GECOS-sama notwithstanding, UNIX-sama still acknowledges a small bit of respect to her elders.  ^________^

So she does have respect for some of her elders! I wasn't sure if she would because of a lot of bad experiences she had with them (although CTSS-sama and EXEC-sama are harmless)

2)  UNIX-sama is old as well.  You know, "birds of a feather", having something more in common than with the other "kids".  This is also the reason why, prior to GENIAC-chan, she'd spend most of her time having long conversations with ITS-sama, who at least is old enough to remember magnetic tapes.  ^__^

I see... Thank you for explaining!

Fufu... reading the encyclopedia entry, I kinda figured she'd be a huge Lisa-tan admirer.  I imagine she and Lisa-chan would be like old-fashioned aristocratic friends -- elegantly and courteously poking fun at eachother over fine tea and pâtisserie.

I knew she'd admire Lisa-tan but I wasn't sure if they ever would have met each other. Now that you mention it, they would have been good friends in a way!

Actually, that could add an element of modern despair (oh noes! here comes more sap!)....

She views Lisa-chan as her senior and always admirered her strength -- but seeing her now in the state that she's in is rather devastating, and only strengthens her resolve that the entire world is conspiring against her.

Oh my gosh...

Add again the fact that Windows 1.0-chan is not only NEAR her, but actually a close friend to Lisa-chan, and that's enough to send the poor Visi-tan's brain reeling.

Aw geez... If she wants to help Lisa-tan, she'd have to come in contact with Windows 1.0-tan who is one of Lisa-tan's friends (that Visi On-tan has a vendetta against) but Visi On-tan wouldn't be very effective at helping Lisa-tan if her mind is preocuppied with vendettas. She'd have to learn how to forgive which would be very difficult for her...

Well the CIOST is getting a little full....

And since she does sound a lot like an older OS/2-sama, and strongly admires the A$C,... hell, why not induct another member?  ^___^

She's in the company of OS/2-sama (a fellow Windows resenter), has the older TRSDOS-chan to reminisce about the good ol' days, and can achieve her MSDOS-chan fix with PCDOS-chan.  ^.^

AND... she has clerical experience, so already that makes her useful in the ever-underfunded A$C.

An A$C member... Even better! She can put her skills to use AND she was taken in by some people who thought she deserved another chance! *sniffle*

However that strengthens Visi On-tan's moral dilemma even further. To help Lisa-tan, she'd have to also forgive a Windows-tan (even if it one that is harmless) which would mean going against the A$C's (or at least OS/2-tan's) beliefs!

Holy crap!  She's like an official "Bootleg"-tan -- or at least certainly the equivalent of one back in her day.  ^^'

Official bootleg? Isn't that an oxymoron? ;012

She certainly has the same resoluteness as C64-tan,... but I do agree she likely wouldn't be... shall we say,... "complete in the head".  Course,... as a pirate,... that's kind of an asset....  ^^;

Wandering life fits her perfectly, especially given her tenuous existence.  ^__^'

Aside from the fact that she isn't "complete in the head", she also has a pegleg because well... the C65 is incomplete! But those things are not stopping her from getting out into the world! And for affiliation, Wanderer it is!

EDIT: found a few more details and info:

http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/c65.html
http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cbm/c65/c65faq20.txt

-development actually started in 1989 instead of 1990. Oops! ^^;
-very rare, only 200-1,000 exist
-has no manual, nor are there any spare parts for the C65 (if it breaks, that's it! )
-has good reviews despite being a prototype and difficult to set up
-looks like the C128 and shares a lot of the same command words
-meant to be the successor of the C64 (but wasn't that what the C128 was for?!?!)

Uhh... How well or poorly do you think she would have gotten along with her sisters and step sister? Given the fact that: C65 was meant to be C64's successor despite the fact C128 was already around and actually the C65 resembles C128 than C64! And C65 has some Amiga-like capabilities!

[C-Chan]

I don't remember either but you are right about the brain deteriorating over time from lack of stimulation. For example, that may partly explain feral children and why they can barely learn language and other things.

Oooh,... well that's actually not the best example, as feral children have a LOT of stimulation when they're trying to fight to stay alive.  It just happens not to be for more primordial things... certainly not for learning languages and stuff.  ^^;

A better example might be criminals or mental patients in extended solitary confinement, or elderly people in non-rich retirement homes, or even a lonely fish in a bowl.  

That's a nice way to look at it!

That might also explain the over-prevelance of unique hairstyles among the Vintage-tans.  ^.^'

I knew she'd admire Lisa-tan but I wasn't sure if they ever would have met each other. Now that you mention it, they would have been good friends in a way!

Yeah, but you're right they wouldn't have met very often.  Neither one of their schedules afforded it.

Surely Visi-tan's idealic image of Lisa-chan came primarily from stories of her exploits.

Aw geez... If she wants to help Lisa-tan, she'd have to come in contact with Windows 1.0-tan who is one of Lisa-tan's friends (that Visi On-tan has a vendetta against) but Visi On-tan wouldn't be very effective at helping Lisa-tan if her mind is preocuppied with vendettas. She'd have to learn how to forgive which would be very difficult for her...

Especially when it's just as easy to simply turn away.  No doubt Visi-tan might have done that at first, and the reason why she never wants to join the Binteji Renmei is because she doesn't want to have to put up with sucha difficult task.

An A$C member... Even better! She can put her skills to use AND she was taken in by some people who thought she deserved another chance! *sniffle*

However that strengthens Visi On-tan's moral dilemma even further. To help Lisa-tan, she'd have to also forgive a Windows-tan (even if it one that is harmless) which would mean going against the A$C's (or at least OS/2-tan's) beliefs!

Well OS/2-sama doesn't really bare any malice towards 1.0-chan or even 2.0-chan -- if anything she still considers 1.0-chan as a kind of stepmother.  However, she too avoids seeing them if she can afford to, since they invoke too many memories that were once fond and are now painful.

And besides, the Windows Family are a whole separate entity and fair game as far as loathing is concerned.  ^___~

Aside from the fact that she isn't "complete in the head", she also has a pegleg because well... the C65 is incomplete! But those things are not stopping her from getting out into the world! And for affiliation, Wanderer it is!

Uhh... How well or poorly do you think she would have gotten along with her sisters and step sister? Given the fact that: C65 was meant to be C64's successor despite the fact C128 was already around and actually the C65 resembles C128 than C64! And C65 has some Amiga-like capabilities!

Hmmm... now that's a tough cookie to crack..... '___'

*ponders*

For maximum sap... I would probably say that no one among them knows that secret except C128-tan.  Being the 2K-tan of the Commodore family at the time, she was probably more in-tune with the inner-happenings of the company, and closely monitored C65-tan's birth.  It was her hope perhaps to give the young girl a surprise birthday party, while simultaneously presenting the joyous news to her other sisters.

But after the horrible news of her banishment, she chose not to tell anyone about it -- with the company already in its last throes, she couldn't afford to drop morale even further.

Only after the company collapsed and she was free to roam the world as a Wanderer, did she make it her life's work to find her long-lost little sister, just to see what became of her.

The irony is that while she's been on her quest, C65-tan has probably scuffled with C64-tan and VIC20-tan several times, neither of them realizing they were blood relatives.  ^___^;

[Aurora Borealis]

Oooh,... well that's actually not the best example, as feral children have a LOT of stimulation when they're trying to fight to stay alive.  It just happens not to be for more primordial things... certainly not for learning languages and stuff.  ^^;

*slaps self in the forehead*

I just happened that I was thinking of Genie, one of the most famous feral children, who happened to also be locked up in isolation since was was 2 years old and until the age of 13!

A better example might be criminals or mental patients in extended solitary confinement, or elderly people in non-rich retirement homes, or even a lonely fish in a bowl.  

That is better! I've heard stories of those who have gone insane or such from solitary confinement. It is very effective, but is it worth the personal risks?

Surely Visi-tan's idealic image of Lisa-chan came primarily from stories of her exploits.

As someone trained to be a high-end business woman, she would admire Lisa-chan's exploits (even though they are not very nice at all!)

Especially when it's just as easy to simply turn away.  No doubt Visi-tan might have done that at first, and the reason why she never wants to join the Binteji Renmei is because she doesn't want to have to put up with sucha difficult task.

Correct! She considered joining the Binteeji Renmei and forgiving Windows 1.0-tan and in turn helping Lisa-tan but since that goes against so much of what Visi On-tan has gone through, proved to be very difficult.

It's kind of a shame too because that would have really helped Lisa-tan recover and Visi On-tan make some more really nice friends!

Well OS/2-sama doesn't really bare any malice towards 1.0-chan or even 2.0-chan -- if anything she still considers 1.0-chan as a kind of stepmother.  However, she too avoids seeing them if she can afford to, since they invoke too many memories that were once fond and are now painful.

So it is possible for Visi On-tan to see the vintage Windows-tans without having an angry OS/2-tan? It's also sad that OS/2-tan doesn't hate the vintage Windows-tans at all but avoids seeing them.

Thinking back on all of the good times she had with them, when life was a lot more peaceful and civil and comparing it to her experiences today would be painful

And besides, the Windows Family are a whole separate entity and fair game as far as loathing is concerned.  ^___~

That even applies to the freerange Windows-tans (3.2-tan, the 95 OSR 2-tans, Neptune-tan, Odyssey-tan and 97-tan), does it? 0__0

The Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family faction may have a lot of protection and security from the likes of the A$C but those wanderers are nearly defenseless!

Hmmm... now that's a tough cookie to crack..... '___'

*ponders*

For maximum sap... I would probably say that no one among them knows that secret except C128-tan.  Being the 2K-tan of the Commodore family at the time, she was probably more in-tune with the inner-happenings of the company, and closely monitored C65-tan's birth.  It was her hope perhaps to give the young girl a surprise birthday party, while simultaneously presenting the joyous news to her other sisters.

So C128-tan was the only one who has met and known of C65-tan back then?

But I say, she has taken having a younger sister very well! (and maybe because of the C65's similiarities with the C128, I can theorize that C65-tan wanted to be like her known big sister! ^^)

But after the horrible news of her banishment, she chose not to tell anyone about it -- with the company already in its last throes, she couldn't afford to drop morale even further.

Bummer

Only after the company collapsed and she was free to roam the world as a Wanderer, did she make it her life's work to find her long-lost little sister, just to see what became of her.

*sniffle* That's sweet! I hope that they do reunite and C65-tan could be introduced to her older sisters and stepsister once and for all!

The irony is that while she's been on her quest, C65-tan has probably scuffled with C64-tan and VIC20-tan several times, neither of them realizing they were blood relatives.  ^___^;

Oh my... If they ever do have that Commodore family reunion, it would be very awkward to say the least!

"Oh... That crazy pirate girl I confronted was... One of my sisters?! AAAAAAH!"
"Awkward...."

Btw, I now know that C128-tan is the mature and dependable-type but is VIC20-tan like? I take it that she's quite aggressive?
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Preconcept sketch of C65-tan!

Yaaaaaargh! She's a sailor cadet turned into a pirate! This is shown full size to be able to read the mini comic with C64-tan, C128-tan and C65-tan! According to the newly-implemented backstory, that scenario would not have been possible as C128-tan was the only one who knows of C65-tan but I couldn't resist!

That little scene takes place back when they were still at Commodore so they are all in full uniform! (based off of C-Chan's sketch of the Commodore-tans in uniform in 1985)

I'm not sure what eye color or hair color C65-tan would have. All I have planned out is that she has some apparent similarities with C64-tan and C128-tan.


Preconcept sketch of Visi On-tan!

Tried to make her look like a diva and a business woman. Not easy for me >__<

Near the bottom left of the picture is a little scene of her meeting the A$C for the first time! (I wanted to add in RISC OS-tan and eCS-tan as well but didn't have enough space -_-)

She is disgruntled and some form of paranoid; but she also has X-Ray vision, heat vision and the ability to shoot lasers from her eyes!

[C-Chan]

Oooh,... I'm gonna love replying to this.  

Stand the Fantastic Plastic By.... @v@

Added after 11 hours 54 minutes:

Oooh,... again, I left too little time to reply to these.  I'll rush through them, then. ^___^'

So it is possible for Visi On-tan to see the vintage Windows-tans without having an angry OS/2-tan? It's also sad that OS/2-tan doesn't hate the vintage Windows-tans at all but avoids seeing them.

Thinking back on all of the good times she had with them, when life was a lot more peaceful and civil and comparing it to her experiences today would be painful

In addition to that, it's also important to assume that OS/2-sama, deep down inside, also doesn't want to risk formenting a hatred towards them either, or worse, be hated by them for what she wants to do to their family.  1.0-chan especially could become hysterical if she sees OS/2-tan hurt any of her children, even if she hardly knows them.

That even applies to the freerange Windows-tans (3.2-tan, the 95 OSR 2-tans, Neptune-tan, Odyssey-tan and 97-tan), does it? 0__0

The Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family faction may have a lot of protection and security from the likes of the A$C but those wanderers are nearly defenseless!

Yeeeeeeeeeep.  ^^;
But they ARE tough, so I wouldn't worry too much about them.  ^___^
If anything, they've all since wisened up to ways to avoid trouble as much as possible (or most of them, anyway...).  ^.^'

So C128-tan was the only one who has met and known of C65-tan back then?

But I say, she has taken having a younger sister very well! (and maybe because of the C65's similiarities with the C128, I can theorize that C65-tan wanted to be like her known big sister! ^^)

Well it really is just conjecture on my part,... but if you like it, I guess it's a done deal. ^^

*sniffle* That's sweet! I hope that they do reunite and C65-tan could be introduced to her older sisters and stepsister once and for all!

You sure?  After all, she is a bit nutty,....
Would make for more sap value if C128-tan, after finally finding her, fails to get C65-tan to acknowledge her as anything other than a rival.  -.-

Oh my... If they ever do have that Commodore family reunion, it would be very awkward to say the least!

"Oh... That crazy pirate girl I confronted was... One of my sisters?! AAAAAAH!"
"Awkward...."

More awkward if you consider that C65-tan would have to be tied down with ropes.  ^______^'

Then again,... maybe this is too much sap.  Maybe she does mellow out with a family reunion.  ^.^

Btw, I now know that C128-tan is the mature and dependable-type but is VIC20-tan like? I take it that she's quite aggressive?

Correct, C128-tan, despite being the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, is often confused as the eldest due to her appearance and calm disposition.  I actually based her archtype on Zakuro from "Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan" (a very funny, but gorey and vulgar Anime), since she parallels C128-tan so well (especially in relation to her older, but younger-looking and "brattier" sisters.



And correct, VIC20-tan is a bit on the aggressive side, as she was modeled after turn-of-the-20th-century Doughboys and thus was involved in more land-based and close-quarter fighting than her sisters (who were all primarily naval captains).  After the collapse of Commodore, she became as similarly cynical as Pilot-chan (minus the cussing), but instead chose to travel the world rather than stay in one spot (lamenting a past that few people bother to remember).

Originally I had no anime archtype for her,... but after seeing Venus Versus Virus, I actually think Laura would make a great archtype.  



Small, youngish, fairly intimidating eyes (not as much as PET-chan's, though), not adverse to wielding large weaponry (although of course, she deals with more antiquated stuff).  The only thing is that her hair would not be blonde at all -- more than likely a transitionary color between PETchan and C64-tan (like burgundy).

Yaaaaaargh! She's a sailor cadet turned into a pirate! This is shown full size to be able to read the mini comic with C64-tan, C128-tan and C65-tan! According to the newly-implemented backstory, that scenario would not have been possible as C128-tan was the only one who knows of C65-tan but I couldn't resist!  

Darn, I'm outta time.  ;___;

But yeah, just wanted to say these sketches are Off-the-Hook!  Adorable stuff!  With her bandana, she reminds me a bit of Lime from the Saber Marionette series (and that's a good thing, as Lime-chan was a great,... and also wacky character!).  ^^

And the mini comic is to die for, as all your microchibis are.  ^.^

Preconcept sketch of Visi On-tan!

Tried to make her look like a diva and a business woman. Not easy for me >__<

Near the bottom left of the picture is a little scene of her meeting the A$C for the first time! (I wanted to add in RISC OS-tan and eCS-tan as well but didn't have enough space -_-)

She is disgruntled and some form of paranoid; but she also has X-Ray vision, heat vision and the ability to shoot lasers from her eyes!

And likewise, Visi On-tan is a remarkable sketch as well -- surprisingly detailed at that!  ^__^
Since I'm in the process of watching Shion no Ou, I should probably point out that she bears some resemblence to Saitou Ayumi from that series (probably cause of the hairstyle and keen expression).  Not sure if Visi-tan would approve (given Ayumi's TRUE identity... ^^;), but it's a wonderful coincidence no less.  ^.^

The "vision" attacks were very clever -- don't know why I didn't see them coming.  ^v^

And the comic... damn!  I insist you're trying to get me to blow up again.  ^_____^
Don't think RISC-chan and eCS-chan would've been necessary -- it already has me ROFLing uncontrollably!  ^V^

Good work as always, Aurora-hime.  ^____^

[Aurora Borealis]

In addition to that, it's also important to assume that OS/2-sama, deep down inside, also doesn't want to risk formenting a hatred towards them either,

Aww... How could she possibly form a hatred towards Windows 1.0 and 2.0-chan? (I guess it must be because they are still relatives of the Windows family, although not typically associated with them)

or worse, be hated by them for what she wants to do to their family.  1.0-chan especially could become hysterical if she sees OS/2-tan hurt any of her children, even if she hardly knows them.

Couldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?

Either way, it would be absolutely devestating if OS/2-tan and Windows 1.0-tan + 2.0-tan started hating each other! And to think that 1.0-tan still cares so much about her other children, grandchildren and uhh... NT-tan (who'd be a stepsister to the DOS-based Windows-tans, right? And that would make NT's descendants their step-cousins or something like that? Of course this is technically speaking...) despite that none of them even know she exists!

BTW, when exactly were 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan exiled? I know that they knew 3.0-tan/3.1-tan for a while but did they ever meet NT-tan or 95-tan?

Yeeeeeeeeeep.  ^^;
But they ARE tough, so I wouldn't worry too much about them.  ^___^
If anything, they've all since wisened up to ways to avoid trouble as much as possible (or most of them, anyway...).  ^.^'

I bet the exceptions to the wising up and avoiding trouble are 97-tan and 95 OSR 2.5-tan!

Speaking of 3.2-tan who was very briefly mentioned, she is 3.1-tan's twin sister who was taught Chinese and went to enter the Chinese computer market. But before her training, would she have ever met her twin and older relatives?

Well it really is just conjecture on my part,... but if you like it, I guess it's a done deal. ^^

I like it, and it explains why C65-tan would have gotten in scuffles against C64-tan and VIC20-tan- they did not know that C65-tan was really their sister because C128-tan never told them, so they thought that she was a bootleg!

You sure?  After all, she is a bit nutty,....
Would make for more sap value if C128-tan, after finally finding her, fails to get C65-tan to acknowledge her as anything other than a rival.  -.-

I guess all that time away from her, as well as the clashes had with some of her other sisters would make C65-tan think of C128-tan as a rival too.

More awkward if you consider that C65-tan would have to be tied down with ropes.  ^______^'

Then again,... maybe this is too much sap.  Maybe she does mellow out with a family reunion.  ^.^

Aw darn I thought that would have a pretty cool reunion! Besides, tying her down would be at first the only way to get her to stay in the same room as her rivals/sisters! But after exchanging some awkward apologies, she'd be able to calm down and be able to get to know her other sisters for the first time!

Correct, C128-tan, despite being the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, is often confused as the eldest due to her appearance and calm disposition.  I actually based her archtype on Zakuro from "Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan" (a very funny, but gorey and vulgar Anime), since she parallels C128-tan so well (especially in relation to her older, but younger-looking and "brattier" sisters.

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/11/9837.jpg

And correct, VIC20-tan is a bit on the aggressive side, as she was modeled after turn-of-the-20th-century Doughboys and thus was involved in more land-based and close-quarter fighting than her sisters (who were all primarily naval captains).  After the collapse of Commodore, she became as similarly cynical as Pilot-chan (minus the cussing), but instead chose to travel the world rather than stay in one spot (lamenting a past that few people bother to remember).

Originally I had no anime archtype for her,... but after seeing Venus Versus Virus, I actually think Laura would make a great archtype.  

http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/laura.jpg

Small, youngish, fairly intimidating eyes (not as much as PET-chan's, though), not adverse to wielding large weaponry (although of course, she deals with more antiquated stuff).  The only thing is that her hair would not be blonde at all -- more than likely a transitionary color between PETchan and C64-tan (like burgundy).

Cool! I hope to see them soon! Btw, do they still wear their old uniforms like PET-tan and C64-tan do?

Heh, I had a feeling that VIC20-tan would be cynical like Pilot-tan! ;012

Darn, I'm outta time.  ;___;

But yeah, just wanted to say these sketches are Off-the-Hook!  Adorable stuff!  With her bandana, she reminds me a bit of Lime from the Saber Marionette series (and that's a good thing, as Lime-chan was a great,... and also wacky character!).  ^^

And the mini comic is to die for, as all your microchibis are.  ^.^

Oh wow... She is a lot like Lime!  An aggressive, pirate version of Lime!

And likewise, Visi On-tan is a remarkable sketch as well -- surprisingly detailed at that!  ^__^
Since I'm in the process of watching Shion no Ou, I should probably point out that she bears some resemblence to Saitou Ayumi from that series (probably cause of the hairstyle and keen expression).  Not sure if Visi-tan would approve (given Ayumi's TRUE identity... ^^;), but it's a wonderful coincidence no less.  ^.^

Another coincidence that works nicely!

The "vision" attacks were very clever -- don't know why I didn't see them coming.  ^v^

I at first struggled to think what kind of weapon she'd wield but suddenly the idea of the "vision" attacks came to me!

And the comic... damn!  I insist you're trying to get me to blow up again.  ^_____^
Don't think RISC-chan and eCS-chan would've been necessary -- it already has me ROFLing uncontrollably!  ^V^

Good work as always, Aurora-hime.  ^____^

Thanks!

[C-Chan]

Yo Aurora-san. ^^
Almost done with my lull,... now just need to scrap up some time. ^.^
If I can't draw anything by Friday, I'll swallow my pride and issue cheap storyboards instead.  At this point, I need to start doing something.  -___-

Couldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?

Answered your own question, now....  ^___~

Either way, it would be absolutely devestating if OS/2-tan and Windows 1.0-tan + 2.0-tan started hating each other! And to think that 1.0-tan still cares so much about her other children, grandchildren and uhh... NT-tan (who'd be a stepsister to the DOS-based Windows-tans, right? And that would make NT's descendants their step-cousins or something like that? Of course this is technically speaking...) despite that none of them even know she exists!

In that case perhaps "hate" might not be the right word.  Perhaps OS/2-tan is simply too scared of breaking their hearts.  Even if they beg her to make peace with their family, that's impossible for OS/2-sama at this point in time.

BTW, when exactly were 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan exiled? I know that they knew 3.0-tan/3.1-tan for a while but did they ever meet NT-tan or 95-tan?

In the original preconcept stories I posted [buried somewhere in this thread], I suggested that the two were still around after NT-san and 95-an were born.  But given the direction the company was already going in, the NT and 95 were pushed into training, indoctrination and conditioning almost immediately.  Since mixing with their NON-belligerent relatives would've been counterproductive, it's likely neither pair was made to meet one another, except perhaps in some random passing along some random hallway.  Especially in NT-san's case, she was not related at all and had less of a need to call them "mother" and "onee-san".  

I bet the exceptions to the wising up and avoiding trouble are 97-tan and 95 OSR 2.5-tan!

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Weather still good out there, right?  ^___^

Speaking of 3.2-tan who was very briefly mentioned, she is 3.1-tan's twin sister who was taught Chinese and went to enter the Chinese computer market. But before her training, would she have ever met her twin and older relatives?

Your character, so I thought you could tell me.  ^___^'
I would probably say no -- and in fact, given her distant upbringing, she's probably unaware that over half of her sisters/step-sisters exist at all.  It doesn't help that a lot of the new Windows-tans she meets are bootleg-tans.  If she were ever to meet the REAL XP-tan, her first impression of her would undoubtedly be that she's a fancy-looking bootleg.  ^___^;

I like it, and it explains why C65-tan would have gotten in scuffles against C64-tan and VIC20-tan- they did not know that C65-tan was really their sister because C128-tan never told them, so they thought that she was a bootleg!

And speaking of bootlegs,... yeah, that actually makes my hypothetical storyline sound more complete.  ^.^
You got it!  ^__^

I guess all that time away from her, as well as the clashes had with some of her other sisters would make C65-tan think of C128-tan as a rival too.

Aw darn I thought that would have a pretty cool reunion! Besides, tying her down would be at first the only way to get her to stay in the same room as her rivals/sisters! But after exchanging some awkward apologies, she'd be able to calm down and be able to get to know her other sisters for the first time!

I imagine that before such a reunion could take place, C128-tan may have to willingly let herself be captured by C65-tan, since the latter simply refused to believe the story while C128-tan was still armed and dangerous. Not that she would believe anything C128-tan says outright, even while tied up in the brig, ready to walk the plank,... but at least the seeds of doubt would start softening up C65-chan to the truth.  

An attack by the other Commodore sisters (perhaps with a little "air support" this time) later, would finally see all the Commodore girls together at last, with a freed C128-tan finally revealing the truth to the shock and bafflement of everyone else.  ^^

Cool! I hope to see them soon! Btw, do they still wear their old uniforms like PET-tan and C64-tan do?

Heh, I had a feeling that VIC20-tan would be cynical like Pilot-tan!

Actually no,... or rather, like the other two (and Amiga), they only wear leftover pieces of their old uniforms.  VIC20-chan, having long worn her old uniform (and being a bad knitter) likely only wears her old, beaten Brodie helmet; while her replacement clothing still has a militaresque feel, its daintier and surprisingly stylish for her personality, contrasting too much with her old-fashioned, gritty headgear. It's a way of showing that, deep down inside, she wants to be more feminine and wants to be a part of modern life, but the memories of her past simply refuse to let her do that outright.

C128-tan may still have her dress cap and turndown-collar shirt, but has opted against wearing her coat out in the wild (especially since replacements are scarce); also, having grown used to living freely on her own, she likely wears a more casual-looking skirt, dark leggings, and a pair of comfortable shoes.

Oh wow... She is a lot like Lime! An aggressive, pirate version of Lime!

Aha!  Finally met someone here who's seen Saber Marionette.  ^___^

[Aurora Borealis]

Yo Aurora-san. ^^
Almost done with my lull,... now just need to scrap up some time. ^.^
If I can't draw anything by Friday, I'll swallow my pride and issue cheap storyboards instead.  At this point, I need to start doing something.  -___-

Although it is tough for you at the moment, I am glad that you'll still make some progress, one way or another!

Couldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?

Answered your own question, now....  ^___~

Is it the former or the latter?...

In that case perhaps "hate" might not be the right word.  Perhaps OS/2-tan is simply too scared of breaking their hearts.  Even if they beg her to make peace with their family, that's impossible for OS/2-sama at this point in time.

...The latter! For maximum sap! *sniffle* OS/2-san is much better off avoiding them completely ;__;

In the original preconcept stories I posted [buried somewhere in this thread], I suggested that the two were still around after NT-san and 95-an were born.

So it was just before the OS wars when they were exiled!

 But given the direction the company was already going in, the NT and 95 were pushed into training, indoctrination and conditioning almost immediately.  Since mixing with their NON-belligerent relatives would've been counterproductive, it's likely neither pair was made to meet one another, except perhaps in some random passing along some random hallway.  Especially in NT-san's case, she was not related at all and had less of a need to call them "mother" and "onee-san".  

That sounds perfect! NT and 95 were trained from the start to fight against the competitors and I assume pillage their cities afterwards until they welcomed their new Windows overlords! Interacting with the 1.0 and 2.0-tans would have gotten in the way with that because aww... they are so sweet! However that exactly was why they were exiled- they couldn't carry out the scorched-earth tactics of their younger sister... And NT.

With both pairs of Windows-tans not meant to meet each other, as well as that 3.1-tan (who was only kept for being the first popular Windows) and MSDOS-tan (did she still have a little influence remaining?) were seperated from both pairs, the times couldn't have been good for them. It is their loneliness that most likely changed them to the ways they are now.

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Weather still good out there, right?  ^___^

Yeah... HEY!! You did that again!

Your character, so I thought you could tell me.  ^___^'
I would probably say no -- and in fact, given her distant upbringing, she's probably unaware that over half of her sisters/step-sisters exist at all.  It doesn't help that a lot of the new Windows-tans she meets are bootleg-tans.  If she were ever to meet the REAL XP-tan, her first impression of her would undoubtedly be that she's a fancy-looking bootleg.  ^___^;

I was unsure but I now know that when in doubt, go with the sappiest and most dramatic scenarios!

I guess 3.2-tan was a wanderer from the start! She would have met and does know some of her real relatives (the ones that are also wanderers) but more often encounters bootleg-tans than not. And given that these bootlegs she has fought against are mostly (if not all) imitations of the Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family, she might not want to meet the originals

Did I mention that she fought some bootlegs? Don't be fooled by 3.2-tan's dainty and cheerful appearance, she is tough and a skilled survivalist and takes pride in those things.

Too bad she couldn't reunite with the rest of her family (especially her twin sister) because it would be so incredibly awkward- maybe even more so than the Commodore-tan family reunion!

3.1-tan would end up mistaking 3.2-tan herself for a bootleg while 3.2-tan mistakes the other real Windows-tans as bootlegs! XD

And speaking of bootlegs,... yeah, that actually makes my hypothetical storyline sound more complete.  ^.^
You got it!  ^__^

Yippee! ^_^

I imagine that before such a reunion could take place, C128-tan may have to willingly let herself be captured by C65-tan, since the latter simply refused to believe the story while C128-tan was still armed and dangerous. Not that she would believe anything C128-tan says outright, even while tied up in the brig, ready to walk the plank,... but at least the seeds of doubt would start softening up C65-chan to the truth.  

An attack by the other Commodore sisters (perhaps with a little "air support" this time) later, would finally see all the Commodore girls together at last, with a freed C128-tan finally revealing the truth to the shock and bafflement of everyone else.  ^^

That is epic! C128-tan risking her life against her younger sister who used to like her but has long gone crazy, while the other sisters call in an air raid against C65-tan's ship!

I'd like to add in a few things to that (for maximum sap!): Just before that air raid was called, C65-tan sees the error of her ways and frees C128-tan, not daring to hurt her only sister who has known her and cared for her.

And right after the air raid was first called, C65-tan escorts C128-tan out of the ship into plain view where they see the other Commodore sisters at the front lines. C128-tan says that the Commodore sisters are all together at last.

While PET-tan, VIC20-tan and C64-tan are shocked and baffled by this at first, C128-tan explains everything (including that it was C65-tan who then decided to free her, and that all of these conflicts were very unfortunate misunderstandings in the first place) and C65-tan appologizes to everyone. The other sisters realizing how the conflicts were all misunderstandings, they also appologize to her as well and they all get to know each other for real for the first time!

Actually no,... or rather, like the other two (and Amiga), they only wear leftover pieces of their old uniforms.

Oh... That's what I meant. ^^;

VIC20-chan, having long worn her old uniform (and being a bad knitter) likely only wears her old, beaten Brodie helmet; while her replacement clothing still has a militaresque feel, its daintier and surprisingly stylish for her personality, contrasting too much with her old-fashioned, gritty headgear. It's a way of showing that, deep down inside, she wants to be more feminine and wants to be a part of modern life, but the memories of her past simply refuse to let her do that outright.

C128-tan may still have her dress cap and turndown-collar shirt, but has opted against wearing her coat out in the wild (especially since replacements are scarce); also, having grown used to living freely on her own, she likely wears a more casual-looking skirt, dark leggings, and a pair of comfortable shoes.

Cool! I like those ideas! Could I help you out and sketch them?

Aha!  Finally met someone here who's seen Saber Marionette.  ^___^

Actually, no I haven't. I'm such a phony!!