OS-tan theories and disscusion

[C-Chan]

Swoonage!  There is much swoonage to be sought here.  ^___^
In any event, have to step out for a while, but I'll be back to use up my proper visitation hours.  ^^

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*imagines a bunch of young Linux-tans in schoolgirl outfits*

Brrrr! Now who's flaky?!

Hey, that'd make for a very wacky high school dating sim.  ^^;

*also imagines Unix schoolgirls as rivals*

Well, hopefully you'll still find a bit of free time to draw. And we're always here if you need help or suggestions

Thank you Bella-san.  ^^
Right now, the only real help I need is in figuring out what to do with the BSD-tans I promised I'd help you with.  You seem almost one with your Plan 9 family pic, so the window of opportunity for their inclusion is narrowing.  Just wandering what you wanted to do with that, if you're still interested.  '___'

As for that goddess status of PCLOS-san...I have but one Goddess for I, and Unix-sama be thy name! And...Multics-sama. And VMS-sama. And I occasionally prostrate myself before Ubuntu-san. XD

But then we kinda drew her very goddess like, no?  With that tranquil expression, calm and confident posture, hair flowing in the wind, nice tall physique,... yep, all the looks an makings of a Gentle Goddess.... ^^

Sure!

Wait...what would I be testing exactly?

Well,... assuming, first of all, that this game idea ever becomes a reality, you're primary duty as a tester would be to play the game and ensure it was fun and educational.  If it's fun but not educational, or educational but not fun, then it needs some work.  ^.^

Oh, and bug reporting would help too.  ^___^

Don't worry, though, as I'd try everything to make it cross-platform (although it really would apply only to Linux/BSD, cause they're the ones that make use of BASH shells.  ^^;

....At any rate, that sounds like a recipe for disaster O___O

Well i said more over at our club, but,... *snaps hoof*  you got it!  ^__~

Like I always say about M$...I wouldn't put anything past them. But a lot of consumers seem to be getting fed up with their, to put it nicely, shenanigans...and I really can't see how M$ could lash out besides doing a lot of FUDing and frivolous SCO-like lawsuits.

Like with their dumping practices ($3 Windows XP) and they're willingness to subsidize piracy (allowing Russians who have pirated copies to pay the equivalent of $14 for their license), I think they will try harder than ever to effectively maintain their market stronghold on what accounts to bribery.  That and they'll also continue to try purchasing successful small companies in order to keep them afloat.

But if cornered, they will eventually turn to lawsuits in order to outspend open source companies into submission -- assuming they're not heavily in debt, as they risked being with that Yahoo purchase.

But the day they lose their hold on the PC game market AND the business IT market (two of their largest revenue flows, and where they get the majority of their most fervent support) would be a sure sign that they're days are numbered.  At that point, a serious rethink of how they run their business and WHO's running the business is necessary.

I do think that the more likely scenario would be for them to hijack a Linux distro (like one you listed), and try to take out the competition from there. I think that this happening could even more more damaging than them just attacking.

I'm telling ya, this girl is smart!  ^v^
That's precisely what they're lifeline is gonna be!  ^__^

I don't think it will last forever (eventually the likes of Novell will be able to govern themselves), but the damage is done in that it could corrupt and divide the Linux community into a near anarchical state (because after all, SCO doesn't own the rights to UNIX, but Novell does).

Yeah, I've never done a chibi before, but I might be willing to try. I dunno if it would exactly fit GECOS-san though...I was thinking more like some kinda epic battle scene with Multics-sama or something.

Though I'm not exactly in the epic mood right now

Oh trust me, with the right kind of VonDaab-style pouting, I think you can knock out some very excellent chibi work of these very old gals.  ^__^

That would be nice for Unix-sama, but somehow I think it would be more difficult for her to step down than anyone else, if only for the fact that she has had such a reputation and legacy built around her (as in the 100s of operating systems that can call themselves "Unix-like")...

And "normal person" Unix-sama....I can't even process that! XD

In terms of responsiblity, yes it is currently difficult, nay impossible to step down without a worthy successor.  And true, old habits will die hard.  (like trying to force the Binteji Renmei members to swap Christmas for Pole Day)

But personally for her, she's tired of that legacy and reputations, and wants to spend at least a few years of her life doing something else besides fighting, brooding and crying silently.  If you think about it, she's been doing that non-stop since she was born.  @___@'

And attitude-wise, I think she'd be the original rebel in the family; after all, Berkley got into a legal battle with Bell Labs (or was it AT&T at the time?) over the code BSD contained...I don't know if BSD-tan so much disliked her mother's tactics like Plan 9-san, but she certainly took a different path than most of her family...

I also figure she'd have somewhat long (blue) hair. Her outfit I'm having some trouble with, however...

That certainly gets C-chan's stamp of approval.  ^.^
Can't wait to see Mama BSD.  ^___^

Yep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")

I also saw a video somewhere of a giant-sized Chun Li.

................

Where can I get this MUGEN stuff again?  ^______________^;
(j/k j/k)

Hmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.

I think she'd be sassier than NT-sama, certainly a lot better dressed.  Pretty good melee fighter too, but she'd have very powerful sorcery anyway so it'd be a moot point.

*looks at watch*
Oh, excuse me. I'm rambling on again..

Well, but bottom line is,... they called the 32X's "Mushrooms of Death" for a very good reason,... not only were they prone to failure, but if you tilted it the wrong way, you could rip off the connectors from your Genesis console.  Hate to see your good system be destroyed due to a crappy add-on playing some GAWD-awful game. @____@'

*falls flat on face*
Oh well, Cee does always hold true to his raincheks. (That just hit me, do you mind if I call you that?)

No problemo.  Alfamille-san calls me that all the time.  ^___^

BTW, I forgot,... what was that raincheck (the one Bella-sama tore up) for again?  ^^;

And though she is a bit -out of the ordinary- I still can't help but gawk over how cute that giraffe girl is.
.......uhh....What was her name again? ^__^;;;

Nexenta-tan.  ^.^

http://www.nexenta.org/os

I kid, I kid, have some DTSS-and-servant-sama:

Awww, now you've gone and done it!!! @v@

*does ol-timey style swoon, complete with harpsichord music*

[Bella]

Yep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")

I's wanna see Mac dude and PC dude as Mugen characters!

Hmm, it's pretty recent.
"Copyright 2003 by Wiley Publishing Inc."

(that's the first time I've heard the word "Copyright" used in reference to something about linux)

Oh, it's pretty new-ish....

And yes, there are copyrights in the world of Open Source stuff

Hmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.

Interestingly enough, I thought perhaps Mama BSD might bear...just a slight...resemblace to VMS-sama, as both OSs ran on VAX architectures (at first) and are both a bit rebellious

VMS-sama, BTW, is the mama of NT-sama....

The Dreamcast on the other hand was revolutionary. The graphics were good, It had good games, (Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Phantasy Star online, Ect.) and was even one of the very first consoles to feature Online play.

It struggled with a few things though, that would eventually cause it's downfall.
The first and most notable was this: It had to compete with the PS2.
(back in the console wars Sony pretty much crushed all who opposed it.)
It was also the only system capable of playing Homebrew games, Imports, and Roms right out of the box without any modding or additions.
This was good for gamers, but bad for Sega.
The online play too suffered, it had very few games that supported it. and eventually because of server problems, started charging money for it.

I heard Dreamcast was very advanced....but I can see where competing with the PS2 would be very bad : |

Yes I did. and now thanks to you I'm In LOVE with a girl who I once dismissed as "Just another linux variant" Redhat-tan! ^____^

Oooh, RHL-tan. I wonder what each of our favorite Linux-tans are? Mine are Slackware-chan, Ubuntu-san, and PCLOS-san, in no particular order...

Hey, is there room for more in there?
*jumps into the sap bucket with bella*
Add inferno-chan and we'd be hot tubbin'....or sitting in molasses..

Oh wow, that sounds like a comic I came up with. No, no, not a Sap-tub, but where FreeBSD-tan uses Inferno-chan to make a makeshift jacuzzi. Out of an ice-skating rink.

And yes, it makes more sense than it sounds...XD

DTSS-tan: Very pretty! Even the servant is dressed elegantly too and much better than I visualized! (I was visualizing her as some sort of Cinderella-type figure as a maid in tattered clothes)

Yes, although she's rather "indentured" to her mistress, DTSS-tan is very reliant on her and therefore treats her with the utmost respect and affection. That said, DTSS-tan is a very kind and gentle soul; even without being so bound to her servant, she'd treat her very well.

Uncyclopedia-tan: Schoolgirl uniform- CHECK! Also giving her short wavy brown hair can complete the Oscar Wilde reference to Uncyclopedia-tan's mentioning on Uncyclopedia's OS-tan article!

Yep, the hair was something of a reference to Oscar Wilde...

Uncyclopedia-tan?
WUT. LAWL. _W_

Needs moar pervy pimp pose, though.

You haven't seen her in action, yet!

Hey, that'd make for a very wacky high school dating sim. ^^;

*also imagines Unix schoolgirls as rivals*

Oh yeah, and Slackware-chan would always being trying to get in the Unix girl cliques ^_^

It just occurred to me...why do I always call her Slackware-chan? She's the oldest Linux-tan in the bunch. She should be Slackware-sama if anything

Thank you Bella-san. ^^
Right now, the only real help I need is in figuring out what to do with the BSD-tans I promised I'd help you with. You seem almost one with your Plan 9 family pic, so the window of opportunity for their inclusion is narrowing. Just wandering what you wanted to do with that, if you're still interested. '___'

Oh course I'd be interested! I just didn't know how you wanted to include the BSDs though : \

But then we kinda drew her very goddess like, no? With that tranquil expression, calm and confident posture, hair flowing in the wind, nice tall physique,... yep, all the looks an makings of a Gentle Goddess.... ^^

*dreamy sigh*

Well,... assuming, first of all, that this game idea ever becomes a reality, you're primary duty as a tester would be to play the game and ensure it was fun and educational. If it's fun but not educational, or educational but not fun, then it needs some work. ^.^

Oh, and bug reporting would help too. ^___^

Don't worry, though, as I'd try everything to make it cross-platform (although it really would apply only to Linux/BSD, cause they're the ones that make use of BASH shells. ^^;

Oh, so I take it that would be a program for teaching commands, right? Sounds pretty interesting...

And if it could teach me to use a command line, it could teach anyone

Like with their dumping practices ($3 Windows XP) and they're willingness to subsidize piracy (allowing Russians who have pirated copies to pay the equivalent of $14 for their license), I think they will try harder than ever to effectively maintain their market stronghold on what accounts to bribery. That and they'll also continue to try purchasing successful small companies in order to keep them afloat.

But if cornered, they will eventually turn to lawsuits in order to outspend open source companies into submission -- assuming they're not heavily in debt, as they risked being with that Yahoo purchase.

But the day they lose their hold on the PC game market AND the business IT market (two of their largest revenue flows, and where they get the majority of their most fervent support) would be a sure sign that they're days are numbered. At that point, a serious rethink of how they run their business and WHO's running the business is necessary.

I don't think they can ever be "heavily in debt"... they're worth more than some small nations

And I don't see how they could ever lose their PC gaming stranglehold. IT, maybe, but I've always seen Windows as the best gaming platform (like it or not -___-)

But I could be wrong...

I'm telling ya, this girl is smart! ^v^
That's precisely what they're lifeline is gonna be! ^__^

I don't think it will last forever (eventually the likes of Novell will be able to govern themselves), but the damage is done in that it could corrupt and divide the Linux community into a near anarchical state (because after all, SCO doesn't own the rights to UNIX, but Novell does).

Besides causing a lot of devision, I think they could likely attempt a Windows-like takeover except with a Linux distro (IE, gaining 90+ percent of the market share)...I don't know if that would be as effective today as it was in the 1990s, though...

I'm being doomy and gloomy, huh -___-

Oh trust me, with the right kind of VonDaab-style pouting, I think you can knock out some very excellent chibi work of these very old gals. ^__^

Maybe someone like WAITS-tan would be a better candidate for a chibi version...at least she's quite light-hearted and cheery already...

Somehow chibis always seem to lend themselves to more fun characters (although I have seen chibi renditions of serious types, it's just my opinion)...

In terms of responsiblity, yes it is currently difficult, nay impossible to step down without a worthy successor. And true, old habits will die hard. (like trying to force the Binteji Renmei members to swap Christmas for Pole Day)

*imagines Binteji Renmei Festivus*

Wow, that would make for one heckuva "Airing of Grievances"

*imagines Vintage-tans getting books n' stuff hurled at them*

Heeheeehee....

But personally for her, she's tired of that legacy and reputations, and wants to spend at least a few years of her life doing something else besides fighting, brooding and crying silently. If you think about it, she's been doing that non-stop since she was born. @___@'

Oh man...you just made the Sap-O-Meter jump up a few notches, there ;015

I'm sure she's tired of it, but she is tied to quite a reputation. If you think about it, for its somewhat humble roots, Unix is one of the only ancient operating systems which still garners respect in people's minds today. Perhaps the greatest and/or saddest, part of Unix-sama's story is that her creators never intended her to find so much power and fame...

That certainly gets C-chan's stamp of approval. ^.^
Can't wait to see Mama BSD. ^___^

Will you settle for lil' Mama BSD-tan? Well, not that little, teenage. I tried to give her a futuristic schoolgirl kinda outfit (given the "academic" nature of the original BSD).

Oh yeah, and that's Plan 9-tan at a similar age. Notice that she's a bit shorter, less mature looking, and...a lot more like her mother when it comes to dressing. These are references to Plan 9 being "more Unix than Unix"...

I think she'd be sassier than NT-sama, certainly a lot better dressed. Pretty good melee fighter too, but she'd have very powerful sorcery anyway so it'd be a moot point.

Woot melee fighting! Sorcery! My favorites! I can see where BSD-tan could be a very interesting character....

Though, c'mon, NT-sama's pretty sassy. She managed to help topple the Unix sever empire with that sass alone T__T

Awww, now you've gone and done it!!! @v@

*does ol-timey style swoon, complete with harpsichord music*

Here, have some NeXTSTEP-tan in a gown!



I was reading about NeXTSETP...besides being one of the most well-designed Unix systems, it was a very (GUI) attractive OS for the time. While it may have only one decedent, OS X, NeXTSTEP's GUI design elements went on to influence most of our modern GUIs...

[Bella]

OH DEAR LORD!

Look at what I found going though ++'s image archive! But I uploaded it to my photobucket account since I dunno if I can link images from there...



OMG! A....a...Unix-tan...! And NeXTSTEP-tan (unless it is a -tan of the company, NeXT). But at least she has pigtails like Aurora's version. And BeOS-tan's hairdo makes her look like she's had her highlights done at VMS-sama's hairdresser...

I can't get over that Unix-tan...she's too cheery XD

[C-Chan]

Oh, it's pretty new-ish....

And yes, there are copyrights in the world of Open Source stuff

Yeah, in fact the General Public License can't be what it is today without copyrights.  Sometimes copyrights and patents get mixed up together, but they really are totally different things (and in the case of software patents, completely absent in most parts of the world).

Interestingly enough, I thought perhaps Mama BSD might bear...just a slight...resemblace to VMS-sama, as both OSs ran on VAX architectures (at first) and are both a bit rebellious

VMS-sama, BTW, is the mama of NT-sama....

And both have blue hair, 'nuff said.  ^^
But I think that's where similarities end.  Personality-wise, we're talking VERY disparate characters.  ^^;

I heard Dreamcast was very advanced....but I can see where competing with the PS2 would be very bad : |

Had Sega stuck with it, I think they would've been able to improvise a strong foothold in the gaming market, as only a 1/4 of the PS2's superiority was based on actual technical merit (and even at that, the Dreamcast had built-in anti-aliasing, which made the games look clean and advanced, rather than jagged and flickery like on the PS2).  The rest was based on hype, and the games it managed to accrue.  

With more responsible leadership, Sega could've put up a good fight, not unlike how it did with the Genesis vs. the Super Nintendo, and not unlike how now the Wii has done well even despite the primitive graphics power.

But then, we're also talking about the same company that created the 32X Mushroom of Death, and completely botched the Sega Saturn.

Oooh, RHL-tan. I wonder what each of our favorite Linux-tans are? Mine are Slackware-chan, Ubuntu-san, and PCLOS-san, in no particular order...

PCLOS-tan, SAM-chan, the Damn Smalls, Momonga, Musix, Fried Chicken,.... and all the rest of the Linuces!!!  I love 'em all!  ^V^

(except maybe SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan, Linspire-tan annd TurboLinux-san,... they're on my naughty list.  >__<)

Oh wow, that sounds like a comic I came up with. No, no, not a Sap-tub, but where FreeBSD-tan uses Inferno-chan to make a makeshift jacuzzi. Out of an ice-skating rink.

And yes, it makes more sense than it sounds...XD

I'm tellin' ya, you need to draw chibis!  That sounds so cute, and even cuter in chibi form!  ^v^

Yes, although she's rather "indentured" to her mistress, DTSS-tan is very reliant on her and therefore treats her with the utmost respect and affection. That said, DTSS-tan is a very kind and gentle soul; even without being so bound to her servant, she'd treat her very well.

Indeed, DTSS-sama has a certain Belldandy-like charm to her, and her servent is (or was) quite cute herself.  Hate to see such a gorgeous gal be all depressed, but alas,... even with Lisa-sama, a lot of hearts from afar where broken when she decided to close her own.  -v-

It just occurred to me...why do I always call her Slackware-chan? She's the oldest Linux-tan in the bunch. She should be Slackware-sama if anything

Well no, cause we're talking about her from the prespective of UNIX-sama, and UNIX-sama loves to belittle her with the -chan title.  Probably has become something of an injoke with all the other Unices and Linuces, even those way younger than her.  ^^;

Oh course I'd be interested! I just didn't know how you wanted to include the BSDs though : \

Okay, in that case, please stand by.  I'm not really sure how much we can get done, but at least we can improvise something.  -v-

Oh, so I take it that would be a program for teaching commands, right? Sounds pretty interesting...

And if it could teach me to use a command line, it could teach anyone

Assuming I could do it one day.  BIG difference between an idea and reality.  More than likely I'll work on it on my own for a while, until all the principle art is in there and some introductory levels are ready (in what I call the "/home" world).  Then I'll probably post it up as an official project.  ^^

I don't think they can ever be "heavily in debt"... they're worth more than some small nations

Oh, there's a big difference between how much you're worth, and how much you'll be worth in the day of tomorrow.  ^____^'

The SCO group was worth quite a lot of money back in its day, but thanks to all these scandals and the loss of business, the company is now worthless and its stock has dropped to being traded for pennies.  That makes the multi-million dollar "rescue" even more suspicious than it already is.

The one leverage that M$ has is that everyone thinks its invincible. The day they lose that "invincibility" is the day they'll have what's coming.  ^^

And I don't see how they could ever lose their PC gaming stranglehold. IT, maybe, but I've always seen Windows as the best gaming platform (like it or not -___-)

But I could be wrong...

I'm sure the Commodore 64 owners would've said the same thing about their console.  Or the Super Nintendo owners who vowed to be Nintendo fans for life.  But gamers can be a fickle bunch, and will follow whatever's the latest, greatest and most immersive.  (don't forget about all the people who've vowed to use Vista just because of DX10).  

If some OTHER platform or computer starts offering the best and most cuttin edge games (by whooing developers, first and foremost), then you won't just see M$ losing its gaming stronghold, but simply history repeating itself yet again.  The same will happen to that system, then the one after that, and so on and so forth.

Nothing's forever, especially in a consumer-based society.  ^.^

Besides causing a lot of devision, I think they could likely attempt a Windows-like takeover except with a Linux distro (IE, gaining 90+ percent of the market share)...I don't know if that would be as effective today as it was in the 1990s, though...

I'm being doomy and gloomy, huh -___-

Well I always said that if M$ cared about maintaining its Windows legacy, they could open source Windows 3.1 and see how far the fans take it to new heights.  Sure, it would be a toy OS at first (the way Darwin OS was), but sooner rather than later it will start to have DVD playback functionality, Compiz Fusion integration, clustering support, etc.

Then again, 3.1-sama would also get forked into countless other separate projects, some competing with Linux and BSD, others merging with them.  In a way, with such a HUGE user and developer base, an Open Sourced 3.1-sama could quickly become M$' own worst enemy, hence the reason why they'd never do it (not without a bunch of seemingly crazy restrictions).  ^____^'

Plus I reckon,... like IBM,... they probably just,..... forgot where her source code is..... ^v^;

Maybe someone like WAITS-tan would be a better candidate for a chibi version...at least she's quite light-hearted and cheery already...

Somehow chibis always seem to lend themselves to more fun characters (although I have seen chibi renditions of serious types, it's just my opinion)...

Ever seen my Linux and Mac System 7 chibis?  Yeah, they're not cheery.  ^v^

No but trust me, I think even a MULTICS chibi would look great.  Besides, as you say, there are a wealth of other characters you've drawn that could make good chibis, not the least of which is:

- WAITS-san
- ITS-san
- Slackware-chan
- Puppy-chan

etc etc.  ^.^

*imagines Binteji Renmei Festivus*

Wow, that would make for one heckuva "Airing of Grievances"

*imagines Vintage-tans getting books n' stuff hurled at them*

Heeheeehee....

ROTFL!!!!  ^V^

Oh man...you just made the Sap-O-Meter jump up a few notches, there

I'm sure she's tired of it, but she is tied to quite a reputation. If you think about it, for its somewhat humble roots, Unix is one of the only ancient operating systems which still garners respect in people's minds today. Perhaps the greatest and/or saddest, part of Unix-sama's story is that her creators never intended her to find so much power and fame...

Indeed.  -__-

Betcha she's one of those people who, if she hears that "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" phase uttered ONE MORE TIME....!!!  Well, let's just say that the local library would run out of books.... ^v^;

Will you settle for lil' Mama BSD-tan? Well, not that little, teenage. I tried to give her a futuristic schoolgirl kinda outfit (given the "academic" nature of the original BSD).

Oh yeah, and that's Plan 9-tan at a similar age. Notice that she's a bit shorter, less mature looking, and...a lot more like her mother when it comes to dressing. These are references to Plan 9 being "more Unix than Unix"...

Oh, you ARE trying to kill me with cute, aren't ya?!  ^v^;

*nosebleeds and swoons*

I believe the right term for the young MamaBSD is "hawt", although I'm wondering if she should have some horns or not.  And the young Plan 9-chan, with drooped bunny ears for pigtails,........  @v@

*squeals*

I'm sorry, I just gotta squeeze her now!!!!  ^V^
I'll do my best to aim for her cheecks!!  ^o^

*hurls at Plan 9*

Though, c'mon, NT-sama's pretty sassy. She managed to help topple the Unix sever empire with that sass alone T__T [/quote\

Oh, but that's just prowess.  Otherwise, personality-wise, she strikes me as a mellow-type.  MamaBSD-sama, though, has spice and rhythm, and a swagger to her hips and the like.  She's flaming hot and passionate,... well okay, maybe not that much, but well,... she makes it easy to understand why half her daughters are the way they are.  ^.^;

Here, have some NeXTSTEP-tan in a gown!

I was reading about NeXTSETP...besides being one of the most well-designed Unix systems, it was a very (GUI) attractive OS for the time. While it may have only one decedent, OS X, NeXTSTEP's GUI design elements went on to influence most of our modern GUIs...

Oh, COME ON....!  Now you're doing it on purpose!  ;^0^;

*C-chan EXPLODES*

OH DEAR LORD!

Look at what I found going though ++'s image archive! But I uploaded it to my photobucket account since I dunno if I can link images from there...

OMG! A....a...Unix-tan...! And NeXTSTEP-tan (unless it is a -tan of the company, NeXT). But at least she has pigtails like Aurora's version. And BeOS-tan's hairdo makes her look like she's had her highlights done at VMS-sama's hairdresser...

I can't get over that Unix-tan...she's too cheery XD

BWAHAHA!!!  I know... ^___^

Hey, since you were talking about a world full of Damn Small everything,... here's a small glimpse of what Damn Small UNIX, NetBSD, NextSTEP and BeOS would look like!  ^v^;
(fortunately, this FreeBSD-tan looks similar to DSBSD too. ^.^)

They're very cute, but from the cookie-cutter approach, I'm not really sure if the author intended them to be more than one-shots.  ^^'

Still, consider it some inspiration for Bella-style chibis.  In fact, when I first saw them, I thought for a moment that YOU had drawn them, and was getting ready to unleash a barrage of swoonage.  ^.^;

[Bella]

PCLOS-tan, SAM-chan, the Damn Smalls, Momonga, Musix, Fried Chicken,.... and all the rest of the Linuces!!! I love 'em all! ^V^

(except maybe SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan, Linspire-tan annd TurboLinux-san,... they're on my naughty list. >__<)

Yeah, I think I like them all too. I like just about all of the OS-tans heehee...

I'm tellin' ya, you need to draw chibis! That sounds so cute, and even cuter in chibi form! ^v^

*points C-Chan toward my thread*

But yes, I'd really like to draw this comic...it will have a bit of drama, too....

Indeed, DTSS-sama has a certain Belldandy-like charm to her, and her servent is (or was) quite cute herself. Hate to see such a gorgeous gal be all depressed, but alas,... even with Lisa-sama, a lot of hearts from afar where broken when she decided to close her own. -v-

Well...I think DTSS-sama is far from depressed...quite the opposite, I believe...

Well no, cause we're talking about her from the prespective of UNIX-sama, and UNIX-sama loves to belittle her with the -chan title. Probably has become something of an injoke with all the other Unices and Linuces, even those way younger than her. ^^;

I see...that's what she gets for being the most wannabe Unixy distro T__T

Okay, in that case, please stand by. I'm not really sure how much we can get done, but at least we can improvise something. -v-

Hmmm...I could always provide help with some sketches...(just posing and such)...

Oh, there's a big difference between how much you're worth, and how much you'll be worth in the day of tomorrow. ^____^'

The SCO group was worth quite a lot of money back in its day, but thanks to all these scandals and the loss of business, the company is now worthless and its stock has dropped to being traded for pennies. That makes the multi-million dollar "rescue" even more suspicious than it already is.

The one leverage that M$ has is that everyone thinks its invincible. The day they lose that "invincibility" is the day they'll have what's coming. ^^

True...but SCO wasn't worth a half a bajillion dollars -___-

I'm sure the Commodore 64 owners would've said the same thing about their console. Or the Super Nintendo owners who vowed to be Nintendo fans for life. But gamers can be a fickle bunch, and will follow whatever's the latest, greatest and most immersive. (don't forget about all the people who've vowed to use Vista just because of DX10).

If some OTHER platform or computer starts offering the best and most cuttin edge games (by whooing developers, first and foremost), then you won't just see M$ losing its gaming stronghold, but simply history repeating itself yet again. The same will happen to that system, then the one after that, and so on and so forth.

Nothing's forever, especially in a consumer-based society. ^.^

True. I don't game anyhow, so I really don't give a darn. But I do know of many (insert console name) fans who have switched to their competitor due to game selection or trends...

Well I always said that if M$ cared about maintaining its Windows legacy, they could open source Windows 3.1 and see how far the fans take it to new heights. Sure, it would be a toy OS at first (the way Darwin OS was), but sooner rather than later it will start to have DVD playback functionality, Compiz Fusion integration, clustering support, etc.

Then again, 3.1-sama would also get forked into countless other separate projects, some competing with Linux and BSD, others merging with them. In a way, with such a HUGE user and developer base, an Open Sourced 3.1-sama could quickly become M$' own worst enemy, hence the reason why they'd never do it (not without a bunch of seemingly crazy restrictions). ^____^'

Plus I reckon,... like IBM,... they probably just,..... forgot where her source code is..... ^v^;

Oh yeah, I'm sure even if M$...or IBM...had the means, they wouldn't open source their old systems. It's too big of a threat to their current OSs....

I didn't know Darwin was a toy at first, though :3

Ever seen my Linux and Mac System 7 chibis? Yeah, they're not cheery. ^v^

No but trust me, I think even a MULTICS chibi would look great. Besides, as you say, there are a wealth of other characters you've drawn that could make good chibis, not the least of which is:

- WAITS-san
- ITS-san
- Slackware-chan
- Puppy-chan

etc etc. ^.^

I was thinking about OS/2-tan after I wrote this...But a Multics-sama chibi!? If the Mother Goddess was existent, she'd throw a....a...something at you!

Like I said before, I drew a (distro-tan) chibi, she's posted in my thread....

Indeed. -__-

Betcha she's one of those people who, if she hears that "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" phase uttered ONE MORE TIME....!!! Well, let's just say that the local library would run out of books.... ^v^;

*looks at Unix-sama*

They say, With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility....

*runs like hell*

I believe the right term for the young MamaBSD is "hawt", although I'm wondering if she should have some horns or not. And the young Plan 9-chan, with drooped bunny ears for pigtails,........ @v@

I dunno if she should have horns, either...cause wasn't the Daemon mascot used mostly for FreeBSD (and I guess NetBSD at first)....?

Oh, but that's just prowess. Otherwise, personality-wise, she strikes me as a mellow-type. MamaBSD-sama, though, has spice and rhythm, and a swagger to her hips and the like. She's flaming hot and passionate,... well okay, maybe not that much, but well,... she makes it easy to understand why half her daughters are the way they are. ^.^;

Nuthin' like a mellow gal with a sword!

But wow, MamaBSD-san really fell far, far, from the Unix tree...considering some of her relatives, she practically came from a different orchard!

BWAHAHA!!! I know... ^___^

That Unix-sama looks happy and at peace.

But our Unix-sama...what with the dark clothes and hair, boots and horn-rimmed glasses....could front one spectacular emo band!

*continues to run like hell*

*gets chased down by Unix-sama, and beaten with bag of pennies*

Hey, since you were talking about a world full of Damn Small everything,... here's a small glimpse of what Damn Small UNIX, NetBSD, NextSTEP and BeOS would look like! ^v^;
(fortunately, this FreeBSD-tan looks similar to DSBSD too. ^.^)

They're very cute, but from the cookie-cutter approach, I'm not really sure if the author intended them to be more than one-shots. ^^'

Still, consider it some inspiration for Bella-style chibis. In fact, when I first saw them, I thought for a moment that YOU had drawn them, and was getting ready to unleash a barrage of swoonage. ^.^;

Bwhaha! No, my chibis...aren't quite this good...^///^

EDIT:

Oh yes, I found some material for a very strange character...AMOS-tan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Microsystems

AMOS is supposedly derived from some DEC source code (TOPS-10) Alpha Microsystems stole. While a very niche system, AMOS is still used today; and Alpha Microsystems even provides a Windows-like GUI for AMOS. Therefore, I think AMOS-tan would be:

-A supposed relative of TOPS 10-tan, and our favorite Bohemian, WAITS-tan
-while she usually dresses in her own way, she enjoys Windows-tan cosplaying; XP-tan, especially.
-her current alignment would be with the CIOST, I believe

[C-Chan]

Yeah, I think I like them all too. I like just about all of the OS-tans heehee...

*stares at Bella-sama's OpenVMS avatar*  Are you sure?  Cause the downside to that uber-cool avatar (gee, wonder where you got it from...^.^) is that now you look like you could view anyone as shark food.  ^___^

Hmmm...I could always provide help with some sketches...(just posing and such)...

Thank you again Bella-sama!!!  ^v^

Okay, just this once, I shall sacrifice myself as shark food to please thy VMS-ness.... ^______^

*puts self on platter*

True...but SCO wasn't worth a half a bajillion dollars -___-

Well you know what they say... ^v^

"The Bigger You Are..."

Again, it's all about perception.  That's why M$ is so keen about cornering all markets in the developing world, taking over Yahoo, all but bribing school systems into using their software, and turning a blind eye towards REAL piracy.  It's not enough to just pour money left and right, because they'd soon run out of it with all the products they issue at a loss (read XBOX).  

But as long as people know the brand, like the brand, are familiar with the brand, and think nothing else works BUT the brand, then they will always subconsiously want it and think it eternal.  This is why companies will often blindly abide by a M$ contract, and all but blindly pay the costs of all the licenses and hardware and put up with the endless technical issues.  They're familiar with it, everyone uses it, they all but take many aspects of it for granted in their own daily lives, and thus they see it as a kind of safety net.

The minute the companies are fully aware of the power of FOSS would spell trouble, which is why technical consultants (often M$ trained and paid themselves) will fight tooth and nail to discredit it (with those ubiquitous Total Cost of Ownership figures).  After all, even if said companies don't plan on using Linux or FOSS, they can still use that as leverage to get better deals.

Get enough companies into that practice, and that will clearly impact M$' bottom line.  

Worse still, it offers a potential conduit to abandon M$ products (or at least the threat thereof) in case they can't get what they want.

In short, all that's really needed to win the day is simple,... Don't feed the troll.  ^__^

Or in this case, this perceived invincibility of such a cheeky "New Money" company, that lacks the political guile of the REAL dangerous corporate powerhouses in this world (you know, like the ones that produce war machines and drill for oil).  -v-'

I didn't know Darwin was a toy at first, though :3

Oh yeah!  It's functionality was squat when it was first open sourced.  Their community did an excellent job of fitting in the pieces.  ^.^

I was thinking about OS/2-tan after I wrote this...But a Multics-sama chibi!? If the Mother Goddess was existent, she'd throw a....a...something at you!

Well in fairnes,... I said I wasn't gonna make a UNIX-sama chibi for the same reason.... ^^;

I dunno if she should have horns, either...cause wasn't the Daemon mascot used mostly for FreeBSD (and I guess NetBSD at first)....?

Aa sou sou, my mistake.  ^^'

But she needs some sort of protrusion, so how about just some whisps of hair that branch off (not unlike Chiivistan's feathers)?

Nuthin' like a mellow gal with a sword!

But wow, MamaBSD-san really fell far, far, from the Unix tree...considering some of her relatives, she practically came from a different orchard!

Well I think you described her best as being a near Linux-sama-quality rebel back in her youth.  ^___^

Course, that's died down a bit, but she still has her looks,... and her sass.... and she ain't getting any younger.  ^^;

But our Unix-sama...what with the dark clothes and hair, boots and horn-rimmed glasses....could front one spectacular emo band!

*continues to run like hell*

*gets chased down by Unix-sama, and beaten with bag of pennies*

Once you're done, remind me to look through those pennies to search for 90% copper ones.  They're worth quite a bit with today's base metal prices.....   ^.^

In exchange I'll give you bandaids for your wounds.  ^__~

Bwhaha! No, my chibis...aren't quite this good...^///^

If you were Pinocchio, you're nose would be knocking satellites off their orbit at this point....  ^^;

Oh yes, I found some material for a very strange character...AMOS-tan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Microsystems

AMOS is supposedly derived from some DEC source code (TOPS-10) Alpha Microsystems stole. While a very niche system, AMOS is still used today; and Alpha Microsystems even provides a Windows-like GUI for AMOS. Therefore, I think AMOS-tan would be:

-A supposed relative of TOPS 10-tan, and our favorite Bohemian, WAITS-tan
-while she usually dresses in her own way, she enjoys Windows-tan cosplaying; XP-tan, especially.
-her current alignment would be with the CIOST, I believe

Ooohoo!  What an interesting old gal!  I like that.  ^___^

She'd be to XP-tan as OS-9 is to Sonata-sama, with the exception that she WANTS to be confused with the young whipper-snapper.  ^.^

I'm sure she could even fool the occasional Windows Fanbois.... that is, until they ask her to play them a DVD.  ^^;

Most likely she also stops by the Binteji Renmei to spend time with TOPS-sama.  ^__~

[Bella]

*stares at Bella-sama's OpenVMS avatar* Are you sure? Cause the downside to that uber-cool avatar (gee, wonder where you got it from...^.^) is that now you look like you could view anyone as shark food. ^___^

I assure you I don't cannibalize my fellow OS-tans...no, I feed off of a steady diet of malicious hackers, crackers and skiddies. Sure, n00bs and people who think they can best me at Scrabble may seem tasty, but mostly I like to mop the floor with them as it were.

I'm like the Deep Blue of Scrabble playing computers.

Well you know what they say... ^v^

"The Bigger You Are..."

Again, it's all about perception. That's why M$ is so keen about cornering all markets in the developing world, taking over Yahoo, all but bribing school systems into using their software, and turning a blind eye towards REAL piracy. It's not enough to just pour money left and right, because they'd soon run out of it with all the products they issue at a loss (read XBOX).

But as long as people know the brand, like the brand, are familiar with the brand, and think nothing else works BUT the brand, then they will always subconsiously want it and think it eternal. This is why companies will often blindly abide by a M$ contract, and all but blindly pay the costs of all the licenses and hardware and put up with the endless technical issues. They're familiar with it, everyone uses it, they all but take many aspects of it for granted in their own daily lives, and thus they see it as a kind of safety net.

The minute the companies are fully aware of the power of FOSS would spell trouble, which is why technical consultants (often M$ trained and paid themselves) will fight tooth and nail to discredit it (with those ubiquitous Total Cost of Ownership figures). After all, even if said companies don't plan on using Linux or FOSS, they can still use that as leverage to get better deals.

I see what you mean...but honestly, I think the public is starting to see that M$ isn't as rosy as the once thought they were.

I saw a great show a few days back on the Discovery Channel that seemed to cast M$ in this light...perhaps I'll elaborate in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club thread...

Get enough companies into that practice, and that will clearly impact M$' bottom line.

Worse still, it offers a potential conduit to abandon M$ products (or at least the threat thereof) in case they can't get what they want.

In short, all that's really needed to win the day is simple,... Don't feed the troll. ^__^

Or in this case, this perceived invincibility of such a cheeky "New Money" company, that lacks the political guile of the REAL dangerous corporate powerhouses in this world (you know, like the ones that produce war machines and drill for oil). -v-'

I know what you mean...the ship has certainly sailed for me ever buying an Windows equipped computer again -___-

Well in fairnes,... I said I wasn't gonna make a UNIX-sama chibi for the same reason.... ^^;

Ahaha!

Aa sou sou, my mistake. ^^'

But she needs some sort of protrusion, so how about just some whisps of hair that branch off (not unlike Chiivistan's feathers)?

Exactly what I thought, exactly!

Well I think you described her best as being a near Linux-sama-quality rebel back in her youth. ^___^

Course, that's died down a bit, but she still has her looks,... and her sass.... and she ain't getting any younger. ^^;

You make me wonder how BSD-san and Linux-sama get along ^_^

I know that if BSD had been available (legally) at the time, Torvalds may have never started the Linux kernel...so I imagine that the two -tans would have a rather strange friendship...if any...

Once you're done, remind me to look through those pennies to search for 90% copper ones. They're worth quite a bit with today's base metal prices..... ^.^

In exchange I'll give you bandaids for your wounds. ^__~

Oh, yeah, I just got beaten for saying Unix-sama would make a good emo band fronwoman...and you ask me to find the copper pennies!?

If you were Pinocchio, you're nose would be knocking satellites off their orbit at this point.... ^^;

*frames line*

Okay, okay, maybe you have me there. Maybe.

Ooohoo! What an interesting old gal! I like that. ^___^

She'd be to XP-tan as OS-9 is to Sonata-sama, with the exception that she WANTS to be confused with the young whipper-snapper. ^.^

I'm sure she could even fool the occasional Windows Fanbois.... that is, until they ask her to play them a DVD. ^^;

Most likely she also stops by the Binteji Renmei to spend time with TOPS-sama. ^__~

I told ya she was quite interesting

[Toki]

I have a quick questions...

Does anyone have any idea how tall the OS-tan are?

[NejinOniwa]

Hmm...
I'm pretty sure there's some stats somewhere - you might want to look in the Wiki, and if that yields nothing, try scouring the gallery.

[Toki]

I've checked wiki and and gallery u__u

[NejinOniwa]

Hm. Then we've got a promblem. With an extra m.



You might want to try Danbooru. Just search for OS (acc is needed, though). Otherwise, this site might help you, but you'll need a proxy to access it, and it's in japanese, so you'll have to ground around a bit to find yourself around. If you don't have a proxy, just download some reasonably good Add-On (if you use Firefox, that is, which I hope you do) for proxy use, like PhProxy. us.feuvan.net is a good config server, I might add. If you have it already, swoon away.

[C-Chan]

I assure you I don't cannibalize my fellow OS-tans...no, I feed off of a steady diet of malicious hackers, crackers and skiddies. Sure, n00bs and people who think they can best me at Scrabble may seem tasty, but mostly I like to mop the floor with them as it were.

I'm like the Deep Blue of Scrabble playing computers.

Well given I am a hacker now (although the good kind) doesn't fill me with any sense of confidence.  ^^'

I see what you mean...but honestly, I think the public is starting to see that M$ isn't as rosy as the once thought they were.

I saw a great show a few days back on the Discovery Channel that seemed to cast M$ in this light...perhaps I'll elaborate in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club thread...

Fufu... more obscure TV references.  ^^;
But this one looks interesting,... probably will scour the web for a clip of some kind.  ^.^

Although I do kinda get enough of that reading Groklaw.net.  ^^

You make me wonder how BSD-san and Linux-sama get along

I know that if BSD had been available (legally) at the time, Torvalds may have never started the Linux kernel...so I imagine that the two -tans would have a rather strange friendship...if any...

Hmm,... never really thought of that, now that you mention it.  @@'

When imaging Linux-sama and UNIX-sama having their discussions, I never once thought that BSD-sama might butt in.  I think she'd be cordial,... but not much else.  '___'

However, FreeB-chan and Linux-sama do have a very strange friendship, I can assure you of that.  ^____^

Oh, yeah, I just got beaten for saying Unix-sama would make a good emo band fronwoman...and you ask me to find the copper pennies!?

Well,.... yeah!  Consider it an honor to count the pennies that you just got beaten with by Her!  ^0^

*claps hooves together in praise*

I have a quick questions...

Does anyone have any idea how tall the OS-tan are?

Well the canon OS-tans don't have any official heights.
I guesstimated some here in my old Annex:

http://ostan-collections.net/topic-231.html

...based around a presumed height of 153cm for Windows ME.  But other than that, heights are purely based on artistic license.

Course, most of our homebrewed OS-tans have definite heights.  ^^

[Toki]

!!! I was worried I'd be too tall!! But I'm too short!!!

* dances *

[NejinOniwa]

Oh NOW you've got me worried.
Shorter than 153 cm? Hell, and here people think below 160 is mini-mini. Crikey!

[Toki]

I'm 149 cm ^ ^;; Not that much shorter...