Linux

Tsubashi · June 01, 2007, 09:23:00 PM

oh goodness, I'm stupid!
I've been wondering: "Why use an ISO burning program in the first place?"
Then I realized, Windows doesn't recognize disk images, does it?

lol, just goes to show how long I've been without seriously using Windows ^^

C-Chan · June 01, 2007, 09:29:46 PM

Nope, not unless it's a proprietary software program that burns a hefty hole in your wallet (or obscure hole-in-the-wall programs like the one I suggested to her). ^^'

In contrast, I can just use Ark to open an ISO file as if it were a regular ZIP file. And to think I can even mount them easily as virtual drives without using Daemon Tools.... ^v^

Isn't OSS technology grand? ^___^

BTW, Bella-san, I don't mean to rush, but I'm afraid I can only squeeze in about another 10 minutes before I have to sign off. Sorry, but it is getting pretty nasty around where I am.... -.-;

Bella · June 01, 2007, 09:33:48 PM

Yo....how does that burning program even work? It's for ISO files, but didn't find any with wakepup....

But I don't have any blank CDRs on hand right now (what a mess!), so I guess it's a moot point.

Now, wakepup will just configure the computer so when I load the liveCD w/ barebones puppy, it will recognize it?

C-Chan · June 01, 2007, 09:51:07 PM

Oh right, that program thingie is only for the ISOs. The Wakepup ZIP contains a Windows executable file to create the Bootable floppy disk, but that one can only be used once you have it on Hacchan. ^__^'

And yeah, according to the instructions, Wakepup will act in the same way that Windows Boot disks work,... they load up CD-ROM drivers, then they boot up the kernel, only this one boots a Linux kernel from the Puppy LiveCD. Sounds about right to me, but it's always good to read the entire instruction set thoroughly just so you can be a Pro at it. ^___^

And,.........

You don't have any CD-Rs either? ^___________________^;

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GYAAAAAH~!! XvX

*collapses*

Right, I do recall you did say that before. ^^;
Oh well, so I guess that means no SAM Linux either....? ^____^
Poor Bella-san,... and here I have CD-Rs and DVD-Rs to build a plastic igloo with.... -v-

Morale of the Story:

"Immediately download and burn Linux distros whenever a talking, black pig tells you to." ^__^

It saves you a lot of trouble down the road. ^v^;

Added after 8 minutes:

*sadness*

Sorry Bella-san, I can't hold out much longer..... -v-

Good luck for the rest of the evening, and I hope you can find other ways to get yourself prepared for your first venture into a Linux OS. ^__^

Please send my regards to everyone else in the other threads whom I left out tonight,... I will be back soon, I hope, to reign down more piggy madness. -v-

Sore ja! ^__^

*trots off*

Bella · June 01, 2007, 09:55:08 PM

No, the morale of the story is don't buy a ton of CDRs and use them ALL as backups for a computer with tons of high-resolution pix, movies, docs, etc. I wish I had just bought an external HD in the first place...

Also, when your knee-deep in junk in a storage room, gathering your computer, monitor and peripherals, and see a box of floppy disks, don't say to yourself, "I won't need these" and set them aside...SOMEWHERE...

I sure hope Hacchans' floppy drive works O__O

Bella · June 02, 2007, 04:34:53 PM

Well, I found the floppy disks. So I loaded one up.
The computer sounded like it was "reading" it. When I clicked on the A: drive, it said the disk needed to be formated. So I clicked yes, and a window popped up. Long story short, it said there was a problem with the data storage on the disk. Then it said the disk couldn't be formated.

Not being a quitter (**snick snick**) I tried to back something up on the drive. So I went through the backup utility, and tried to load a picture or something on the disk. I followed the instructions...Windows said there were no errors backing up, and everything was fine.

Naturally, it's one of this damned computer's traps, because when I went to properties, it said the disk was empty. And it said it needed to be formated.

NejinOniwa · June 02, 2007, 04:54:20 PM

Sounds like your computer has a real problem witya thar, yan.

Bella · June 03, 2007, 11:38:06 AM

At the risk of sounding sarcastic...
O RLY?

But the thing does READ floppy disks. Well. It just can't write them. Or maybe it can't format them. Or maybe it can't read what it wrote.

Tsubashi · June 03, 2007, 02:01:42 PM

Quite Honestly, I have never been able to format a windows readable disk using anything other than MS-DOS 5.x or Mac OS 8. Weird eh?
Don't suppose you have either of those on one of your computer though?
Hmm, try booting into MS-DOS and type "Format a:" (Without quotes)
Who knows, maybe it might work! ^__^

C-Chan · June 03, 2007, 02:32:28 PM

WAI!!!! I'm back!!!! Missed me?! ^v^

*cricket sounds*

Good...! ^___^

Alright, gimme a sec while I catch up.... -v-

*reads*

Bella · June 03, 2007, 04:09:09 PM

QuoteHmm, try booting into MS-DOS and type "Format a:" (Without quotes)
Who knows, maybe it might work! ^__^

I did that and it said it formated!

Added after 12 minutes:

But when I tried to access the disk in 98, it said:

A:\ NOT ACCESSIBLE

The system can't read from the specified device.

C-Chan · June 03, 2007, 04:18:03 PM

GYAAAAAAH!!! XvX

*collapses*

Honestly Bella-san, why do you insist on being the universal pinnacle of misfortune? ^__^'

From what I originally read, I was about to suggest that perhaps the floppies were inaccessible due to some storage problem (humidity, magnetism, etc.). However, if it is the case that you can read them but just can't write/format them, then it at least sounds like a software (=Windows) issue. The best ways to experiment are:

Naturally, if your computer is blind as a bat (can't boot CDs, floppy doesn't work, BIOS can't be updated [cause of the floppy thing], no network/internet access), all is still not completely lost. All it takes is a little patience,... and maybe a screwdriver and anti-static kit if you're forced to perform a little... surgery..... ^^;

Not really sure how far you want to go with this,... that's why I recommend you get your feet wet with a modern Linux first before you splash face-first into more challenging legacy installations (where you have to worry about floppies and disk space and RAM, etc). After all, it's not like you'd be able to use Beryl on that machine, cause even that has some system requirement (generally anything greater than a Nvidia Geforce3).

Sure you don't want to try out the SAM Linux LiveCD on DY? ^__^
I tried it out a little while ago, and I still can't stop drooling. ^.^

Bella · June 03, 2007, 04:26:30 PM

I wonder if I can do more stuff using DOS mode. Cause that seems to work a helluva lot better than 98.

In fact, most computers seem able to do more in DOS mode than with a GUI.

QuoteSure you don't want to try out the SAM Linux LiveCD on DY? ^__^

DY's rightful owner is one of the biggest Windows zealots east of the Mississippi. I think I'll pass

QuoteHonestly Bella-san, why do you insist on being the universal pinnacle of misfortune? ^__^'

Did you ever hear the saying, "If I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all?" I invented it to describe my experience with non-NT (AKA multi-tasking paperweight) Windows.

C-Chan · June 03, 2007, 05:05:37 PM

QuoteDY's rightful owner is one of the biggest Windows zealots east of the Mississippi. I think I'll pass

Aaaaaaah, don't be such a chicken. ^__^
As long as he/she doesn't catch you using the LiveCD, you'll be fine..... ^.^

But it's still a moot point, cause you need CDRs first -v-

So anyway.... like.... when are those scoundrels going to return your baby (K8 ) back? Hopefully WITH her HD intact. ^___^;

QuoteDid you ever hear the saying, "If I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all?" I invented it to describe my experience with non-NT (AKA paperweight) Windows.

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!! ^V^

YOU have GOOD luck?!! @v@
Did I miss anything? ^____________^

*chortles*

Poor Bella-san,... your level of sufferage is SO unprecedented, you could almost vote with it. ^.^'

QuoteI wonder if I can do more stuff using DOS mode. Cause that seems to work a helluva lot better than 98.

In fact, most computers seem able to do more in DOS mode than with a GUI.

WAII!!! Bella-san is still willing to consider another OS! ^__^
Might be a good time to remind you that there are also Open Source DOSes as well.....

http://www.freedos.org/

Course, we still have the problem of how in the world to install it on that Compaq, so might I interest you instead on obscure vendor models? ^___^

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

[Note: scroll to the bottom.]

Bella · June 03, 2007, 05:32:10 PM

QuoteAaaaaaah, don't be such a chicken. ^__^
As long as he/she doesn't catch you using the LiveCD, you'll be fine..... ^.^
But it's still a moot point, cause you need CDRs first -v-

So anyway.... like.... when are those scoundrels going to return your baby (K8 ) back? Hopefully WITH her HD intact. ^___^;

Not that I'm a chicken, it's that I'm a blabbermouth. I'd have to blather to everyone in a five mile radius

I have an external HD, which would work with a newer system, so no, I wouldn't need a CDR.

QuotePoor Bella-san,... your level of sufferage is SO unprecedented, you could almost vote with it. ^.^'

XD

QuoteWAII!!! Bella-san is still willing to consider another OS! ^__^
Might be a good time to remind you that there are also Open Source DOSes as well.....

I guess what I meant to say was, it seems it's easier to fix problems with DOS mode. Take Windows XP, for example. I (with some help) fixed a home wireless network that had been incorrectly set up using XP's command prompt (which is like a "simulated" form of DOS, if I am correct). I "ping-ed" for about an hour before I got it to work.

But I doubt I'd want an entire DOS OS.