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Started by panda, September 17, 2005, 04:24:10 PM

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CaptBrenden

what are you talking abotu c-chan, I hear about bloody katrina all the freaking time.  Hell that tsunami that devestated most of indonesia and neighbors was more quickly forgoten about
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zjhentohlauedy

i agree. katrina is still being mentioned in a lot of disaster related shows.
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CaptBrenden

I guess the tunami ment more to me, as I saw more people killed in it.   Losing your stuff is one thing, but loosing entire familys.. that strikes home harder.. but more people forgot about it quickly.  I never will tho.. I still sometimes get nightmares about seeing the bodys floating in the ocean 25 miles of the coast after they had been floating out there for aweek.  *shutter*
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SleepyD

that must have been a terrible sight to see... I can't imagine how that felt.

And to think in the summer of 2005 I wasn't very far from there....
I think the only reason why Katrina got more publicity is because of the economic impact to the US.  But I'm not going to forget the tsunami. Hey, I even wrote a poem back then.

C-Chan

Reason I mentioned it is because it wasn't in State of the Union, as NewYinzer asked.

Naturally the Tsunami, by shear size, range and death toll, was far worse, and the repercussions of that are still felt in their countries to this day.

But it's only common sense that a government of a particular country, and the citizenry of that particular country, should fix their own problems before branching off to fix everyone else's.  

Precisely because of the overwhelming international support for the Tsunami, there was no need for the Katrina disaster to be as deadly as it was -- I can grant you, a lot of US citizens caught in that would've been more than happy to see an aircraft carrier off the shores of New Orleans.

As it so happens, none of that happened -- the response was delayed, private citizen volunteers were turned away, foreign aid and equipment was turned away, people were holed up and treated like "refugees", and tons of horror stories ensued.  The death toll is still unknown as the media has bothered to check that the counting is done right, many parts of the gulf coast have still not been rebuilt, and many thousands of US citizens are still displaced throughout the  US, not necessarily by choice.  Too ignore all this well after a year of the disaster is criminal.

What else is there left to assume than that Katrina was such an embarrassing event (a "3rd world" crisis in the "richest country in the world"), that both the government, the media and the majority of the citizenry prefer to bury their fellow citizens in need than to face some very ugly facts.  Hence the obsession with what happens elsewhere in the world.

panithan

As Captain said in the Random movie/flash clip thread.
http://ostan-collections.net/viewtopic.php?t=313&start=21

Captain's group came to help the Thai peoples and nereby countries whose their home were destroyed, and their families are lost by the Tsunami. He was in the real situation where people are suffering, need the help. And I, as Thai people, I've seen those video and the suffering peoples many times on TV. So, I understand those feelings.- -

Summary: The real experience Captain got, and the numbers of time I see it, made us think Tsunami's more horrendrous than Katrina.

CaptBrenden

there is suffering in both places.. that is for sure.  but for the human deathtoll... I do belive the tsunami did far more.. but was forgotten quicker.  I think both groups still need assistance.  I would have liked to have done more.. I put blood and sweat into helping the tsunami victims as well my hard earned money, an then we were asked to leave by paranoid goverments that belived that it was a farce to let us invade their countries. it just goes to show the ignorance of the worlds opinon of America.  Sirlanka inpreticular because its goverment was highly infuenced by terrorist cells functioning in that area feared we would use it as a staging grounds to launch an assault on them

the resounding word was, we want your money and food, we dont want you.  Perhaps thats why we pulled out and forgot about it.
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Ultimaninja

Elfen Lied = Already have the anime like it to(Haven't watched it though), but thanks for the link. Never thought to wikipedia it.

Katrina + other nation and international problems =
Uninteresting to me as we have so much media bulking up lies about it for the emotional viewers. So I really have no idea how much is real and fake. And also the people were warned to leave, but chose to stay for their plasma screens. I feel no sympathy towards them.

Story: Just got a dose of x10 awsomeness in the form of an idea

zjhentohlauedy

;015  wow, i guess smaller countries are getting more and more paranoid of the dominating giants.. :(
well i'm just a nobody. so all i can do is pray for people like you and the people you help, capt.
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C-Chan

If that's what gets you through the day, more power to you.  ^^'

At least the Resident Ninja makes a great point about the media bulking up lies for emotional viewers.  That is true for just about anything, so it really comes done to whether you're willing to sacrifice money and lives to believe their lies about people suffering (American or foreign), or lies about belligerent countries.  

If you constantly support the latter more than the former, then of course not just governments, but many average people are gonna get paranoid over you.  Heck, it's scary enough that you think everyone in the gulf coast had plasma tvs, given the majority of the victims were too poor to afford skipping work for a day.

I guess I'll leave it at that, but will just say this in parting: don't wreck your country in pursuit of trying to look like a big shot.  You may not own it anymore, but as long as you still live on it, you're obliged to at least take care of it.

Ultimaninja

Update ?? of ??

Another page added to my story

Uthantion's background is more dark and twisted.

Helvox's personality towards races other then dragons will be less then what I orriginally had it to start with.

Death of gods will be more drawn out with much bloodshed and missing limbs.

Distracting me with anime will work to hinder my progress.

Holy beejebuzz...
I just realized I had alot of anime girl-robot stuff that might fall into the other catagory on OS-tan gallery...

CAKE!!!!
*Grabs a muffin-loaded shotgun*

Exa

Mentioning anime robot girls: what is the situation with all those robotic maids? Why they are so popular?

zjhentohlauedy

japanese obsession with maids and robots combined? ;026
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Exa

Interesting... I know they like robots, maybe maids, too, but the two combined... o_o

Nidas

Quote from: "Exa"Interesting... I know they like robots, maybe maids, too, but the two combined... o_o

WHAT. Mahoromatic, nuff said ;P