OS-tan theories and disscusion

[C-Chan]

Oh my GAWDS.  @___@
Well I can probably liken it to giving away unlicensed Mickey Mouse dolls for free.  Sure, it IS free,... but you can still get sued for it.  ^^;

Actually, open source literally just means that the source is accessible, regardless of the license -- so yeah, it is an open source app.  Curiously, it also claims to be licensed under the GPL3,... albeit with the Classpath Linking Exception:

Classpath is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License with the following clarification and special exception.

   Linking this library statically or dynamically with other modules is making a combined work based on this library. Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover the whole combination.

   As a special exception, the copyright holders of this library give you permission to link this library with independent modules to produce an executable, regardless of the license terms of these independent modules, and to copy and distribute the resulting executable under terms of your choice, provided that you also meet, for each linked independent module, the terms and conditions of the license of that module. An independent module is a module which is not derived from or based on this library. If you modify this library, you may extend this exception to your version of the library, but you are not obligated to do so. If you do not wish to do so, delete this exception statement from your version.

In other words, the library is allowed to have its own licensing terms -- so while the underlying GPL3 code can be distributed freely, the C# probably cannot, and so it kind of cancels out.  
You can, in theory, readjust the underlying code to work with a replacement Java or G++ library,... but then you approach dangerously-close to "why bother" territory.  ^^;

Regardles, though...

Of COURSE she needs an OS-tan.  
I like your idea, although I might add that she'd also be part of the so-called MySpace Generation -- a natural-born geek, yet still a slave to fashion, fads and all things popular.  She's a huge Mono and Moonlight supporter, despite not really understanding why ("just 'cause...").

In all seriousness, though, while it is unnerving, I can't blame anyone for trying.  Some people just want to have fun with the programming languages they're most familiar with, and I'd rather they play around with it independently, then use that knowledge to contaminate and sabotage F/OSS (via the aforementioned MONO and Moonlight, for example).

[Smokey]

I wouldn't even care if bill gates himself programmed an OS...
It's a new OS, not made by M$... ;010

[Bella]

Of COURSE she needs an OS-tan.
I like your idea, although I might add that she'd also be part of the so-called MySpace Generation -- a natural-born geek, yet still a slave to fashion, fads and all things popular. She's a huge Mono and Moonlight supporter, despite not really understanding why ("just 'cause...").

In all seriousness, though, while it is unnerving, I can't blame anyone for trying. Some people just want to have fun with the programming languages they're most familiar with, and I'd rather they play around with it independently, then use that knowledge to contaminate and sabotage F/OSS (via the aforementioned MONO and Moonlight, for example).

I figured she'd be kind of a wannabe tough girl; but still very comical in a way...

Ahem....

I am requesting a bit of info on TOPS 10 and/or 20-tan. I do recall discussing some ideas for her character long ago (I remember hearing that she was quite militaristic but has since settled down)...but I do believe they were for a present day TOPS-tan, and the picture in question would be set in the 60s or 70s. All I know is that I envision her rather as a general or some kind of high ranking official, and that I think WAITS-tan would be her genetic daughter (though I dunno if this was just another case of cloning).

Also, are there any physical ideas for her? Or is this fair game?

Also, we have a red-level new character alert! I started reading about CP/CMS. I don't know how the hell I missed this system for so long....and now think a CP/CMS-tan must be drawn; her character would be on par with that of Multics-sama or even Unix-sama IMHO. Here's what we know about the system, and what I think a possible character (lots of stuff is ripped off from wikipedia):

-In addition to its role as the ancestor of the VM family, CP/CMS played an important role in the development of operating system theory, in the design of IBM's System/370 and later product lines, in the creation of the time-sharing industry, and in the creation of a self-supporting user community that anticipated today's free software movement. She would be quite a prolific old lass.
-CP/CMS was first released in 1968, and last released in 1972; a version of CP/CMS lives today under the name of VM/370; so I guess CP/CMS-tan would still be alive.
-It belongs to the VM family of IBM mainframes, the logo of which is a green teddy bear. Perhaps CP/CMS-tan's anthropomorphism should be a bear.
-Considered the "mother of all IBM mainframe OSs"

-CP/CMS had three distict versions:

* CP-40/CMS, an important "one-off" research system that established the CP/CMS virtual machine architecture
   * CP-67/CMS, a reimplementation of CP-40/CMS for the IBM System/360-67, and the primary focus of this article
   * CP-370/CMS, a reimplementation of CP-67/CMS for the System/370 â€" never released as such, but instead becoming the foundation of IBM's VM/370 operating system (announced in 1972 and still in use)

For the sake of simplicity, I will likely make only one CP/CMS-tan, however.

-License was the IBM Type-III Library (free in source code form at no charge to IBM customers, without support). While debatable, CP/CMS is considered by many to be one of the first examples of open source software! I wonder if along with ITS-san, CP/CMS-tan would be a role model for Linux-sama?
-was built in IBM's Cambridge Scientific Center, an R&D department with strong ties to MIT's Project MAC (responsible for Multics' creation). The Cambridge Scientific Center was even housed in the same building as Project MAC. And while not derived from CTSS in a "genetic way", CP/CMS was strongly influenced by CTSS (as much as Multics). Methinks this would make for a good backstory between Multics-sama and CP/CMS-tan. I mean, both were "born" at the same place, and had the same teacher; although, Multics-sama probably would have received more attention (as CTSS was used to build Multics on, and CP/CMS was merely based on CTSS).

- CP/CMS is made of two components:

   

* CP, the Control Program, created the virtual machine environment. The widely-used version was CP-67, which ran on the S/360-67. (The research system CP-40 established the architecture. A third version, CP-370, became VM/370.) Instead of explicitly dividing up memory and other resources among users, which had been the traditional approach, CP provided each user with a simulated stand-alone System/360 computer, able to run any S/360 software that ran on the bare machine. This gave each user what was, in effect, a private computer system.

   * CMS, the Cambridge Monitor System (and also Console Monitor System â€" but renamed Conversational Monitor System in VM) was a lightweight single-user operating system, for interactive timesharing use. By running many copies of CMS in CP's virtual machines â€" instead of multiple copies of large, traditional multi-tasking operating systems â€" the overhead per user was less. This allowed a great number of simultaneous users to share a single S/360.

I have no idea what this means for her character. However, it did have user security that was similar to Multics.
-Was considered a "poor cousin" of IBM's other OSs; while a revolutionary system, it was quite shunned at the time in favor of more primative batch systems. But it rose above limited resources and company politics, to create an enduring and important technical legacy, a fiercely loyal user base, major derivative systems in the time-sharing industry, and, ultimately, a heritage as the grandparent of major 21st century products from IBM (more and more parallels to Multics-sama, I see).
-IBM submitted a proposal to Project MAC. However, IBM's proposal was not well received: MIT chose GE as the MULTICS system vendor. The fallout from this event led directly to CP/CMS.

There's more, but this is all I've read about so far. Right now my head is...kinda spinning after reading about CP/CMS...I still have next to no ideas for a CP/CMS-tan (or -sama) X___X

[Aurora Borealis]

That is quite an interesting OS and character concept!

However I have no idea what she would look like though

[Smokey]

That reminds me of CP/M... Do we have a -tan for that one, yet?
Because that would most likely be a cat (If i'm not terribly mistaken, she was DOS' mother)...

Would be fun though, i like kittehz, and cappie would have another pet...

[NejinOniwa]

When I look back at this thread, I see someway halfway where it stops being "theories and discussion" and starts being "OS-Tan Archaeology"...
>w<

[Smokey]

Restecp tha OS genesis... ;010

[Bella]

@Smokey: Yes, there is a CM/P-tan; but she goes under the name of DR DOS-tan, because that's what CM/P was renamed



@Nejin: I think it's a bit more like "OS-tan anthropology", actually

But no, this is theoretical stuff. I just thought this thread could be used for character design and OS-tan proposals that couldn't be posted elsewhere.

Okay, I've become a bit enamored with IBM Mainframe OSs; I feel kinda like I did while researching the history of DEC...

As a whole, I've discovered there was a lot of friction between the different branches of OSs and their supporters at IBM. As I understand, the main "families" are/were:
-The OS family (notably OS/360, MVS, z/OS)
-The DOS family (DOS/360, DOS/VSE, and the current z/VSE)
-The VM line (CP/CMS through zVM)
-Specialized systems, like TPF and the current z/TPF
-Imported systems, like Linux on zSeries, MTS, and MUSIC/SP
-This is just a few x__x

Some other thoughts on the IBM family:
-Very old school, probably more so than the DECs; this attitude led to a toppling of their "empire" by smaller upstarts with more open societies
-IBM fostered an early open-source community; I guess the some of the early IBM OS-tans would have been skilled open sourceresses. I also suppose much of this early knowledge would have been lost in later times, and is just now being brought back in IBM (by Linux-sama)
-I suppose there would have been a lot of conflict between the more advanced "clans" (like the VM line), and the less sophisticated ones (like the OS family). Maybe they would have had a certain fear of the sorcery

While there are a great many systems which I'm unsure of personifications for, some that really jump out at me include:

MUSIC/CP
-made in the 1960s, peaked in the 80s, still in use today in emulators
-Used an interactive terminal interface when many mainframes still used punchcards
-popular in universities and high schools

Character notes: I guess MUSIC/CP-tan would be rather lighthearted, schoolgirlish, and likable. Should she be a musical genius, though?

TSS/360
-I quote, "historically IBM's worst failure ever at building operating systems"
-First released in 1967
-Had features that were popularized on Multics and VM/CMS
-Like Multics, suffered from the "second system syndrome"
-Other Multics parallels include it being an elegant and very ambitious system, failure caused by performance and reliability problems, and lack of compatibility other systems (OS/360). It had serious stability and performance problems, for it had been snatched from its nest too young".
-IBM attempted to develop it on a very aggressive schedule with a large staff of programmers to compete with Multics
-In February 1968 there were eighteen S/360-67 sites attempting to run TSS. IBM announced via "blue letter" that TSS was being decommitted, and scraped the project in 1971

Character notes: ZOMG, it's Multics-sama's IBM counterpart! Except she didn't have the will to survive that Multics-sama did; nor was she able to successfully work though her problems to become a competent and stable (enough) person O__O'

IBM M44/44X-
-An experimental OS started in the mid 1960s, influenced by CTSS
-While it was used to explore the concepts of virtualization, it did not implement virtualization by a long shot
-Considered one of the best examples of experimental computing

Character notes: Notta : |

IBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs

Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.

FYI, I didn't write all this now, I've been working on this little spiel for some time now. X____X

[Bella]

Okay, so a few quick concept sketches for CP/CMS-sama

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/Copy_of_img358.jpg

and TSS/360-san (aka IB-M-ultics)

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/img357.jpg

Read the above posts for character information....

[C-Chan]

Actually have to disappear for a while, but will return to finish my rounds.  Have two more threads to finish.  ^^

*trots off*

[C-Chan]

I am requesting a bit of info on TOPS 10 and/or 20-tan. I do recall discussing some ideas for her character long ago (I remember hearing that she was quite militaristic but has since settled down)...but I do believe they were for a present day TOPS-tan, and the picture in question would be set in the 60s or 70s. All I know is that I envision her rather as a general or some kind of high ranking official, and that I think WAITS-tan would be her genetic daughter (though I dunno if this was just another case of cloning).

Also, are there any physical ideas for her? Or is this fair game?

Hmmm,... I actually don't recall we ever talking about TOPS-san to such a great extent, although since the topic did surface before I suppose you're right. Since she is an ancestral DEC, as stated in this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS-10

...I suppose she would have had her militaristic side.  And while she's old and wise in her present day self, she's also very laid-back and something of a slacker.  ^^;

I envisioned her present-day self as having a very sly but otherwise unimposing figure -- Mitsune from Love Hina might be a helpful reference character.  Her past self, though, is purely fair game -- although given her DEC lineage and her modern-appearance, a great reference character for her abilities/peronsality might be King Bradley from you-know-where.  ^^

I have no idea what this means for her character. However, it did have user security that was similar to Multics.
-Was considered a "poor cousin" of IBM's other OSs; while a revolutionary system, it was quite shunned at the time in favor of more primative batch systems. But it rose above limited resources and company politics, to create an enduring and important technical legacy, a fiercely loyal user base, major derivative systems in the time-sharing industry, and, ultimately, a heritage as the grandparent of major 21st century products from IBM (more and more parallels to Multics-sama, I see).
-IBM submitted a proposal to Project MAC. However, IBM's proposal was not well received: MIT chose GE as the MULTICS system vendor. The fallout from this event led directly to CP/CMS.

There's more, but this is all I've read about so far. Right now my head is...kinda spinning after reading about CP/CMS...I still have next to no ideas for a CP/CMS-tan (or -sama) X___X

You and me both, sister.  XvX

Either way you look at it, though, we're talking hardcore Mainframe-tan here.  ^^

I'm actually fairly intrigued about her descendant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z/VM

Even though it's a bit unfair to do this, considering this was glossed over with z/OS-sama,... supposing we had CP/CMS be one of them "evolutionary" OS-tans that just grows with age with each new release.  ^^

A la CP/M --> DR-DOS?

@Smokey: Yes, there is a CM/P-tan; but she goes under the name of DR DOS-tan, because that's what CM/P was renamed

Speak of the devil....  @v@

As a whole, I've discovered there was a lot of friction between the different branches of OSs and their supporters at IBM. As I understand, the main "families" are/were:
-The OS family (notably OS/360, MVS, z/OS)
-The DOS family (DOS/360, DOS/VSE, and the current z/VSE)
-The VM line (CP/CMS through zVM)
-Specialized systems, like TPF and the current z/TPF
-Imported systems, like Linux on zSeries, MTS, and MUSIC/SP
-This is just a few x__x

I previously covered the OS series, the DOS series and TPF in my annex, but didn't realize the importance of the VM series and glossed over the imported systems.  

If you feel like opening a can of worms, the Mainframe-tans offer a story value that would put Greek God mythologies to shame.  And this coming from stories of Chronus eating a rock, thinking it was his son Zeus.  ^^;

Some other thoughts on the IBM family:
-Very old school, probably more so than the DECs; this attitude led to a toppling of their "empire" by smaller upstarts with more open societies
-IBM fostered an early open-source community; I guess the some of the early IBM OS-tans would have been skilled open sourceresses. I also suppose much of this early knowledge would have been lost in later times, and is just now being brought back in IBM (by Linux-sama)
-I suppose there would have been a lot of conflict between the more advanced "clans" (like the VM line), and the less sophisticated ones (like the OS family). Maybe they would have had a certain fear of the sorcery

Ah yes, this is going to get messy very quickly.  ^v^
By comparison, the stories of PC-DOS and OS/2 are peaceful.

Should probably note that the "opening" of their x86 hardware did much to advance computer usage -- although it was thanks to their own version of beaurocratic "red tape" that they failed to capitalize on that.  Indeed, the Linux-tans are helping them rise from out of their own ashes -- but the IBM Mainframe-tans are surely to proud to acknowledge this.  ^^'

MUSIC/CP
-made in the 1960s, peaked in the 80s, still in use today in emulators
-Used an interactive terminal interface when many mainframes still used punchcards
-popular in universities and high schools

Character notes: I guess MUSIC/CP-tan would be rather lighthearted, schoolgirlish, and likable. Should she be a musical genius, though?

With that name, it's kinda a no-brainer.  Yes. ^.^
We shall call her the Goddess of Music.

TSS/360
-I quote, "historically IBM's worst failure ever at building operating systems"
-First released in 1967
-Had features that were popularized on Multics and VM/CMS
-Like Multics, suffered from the "second system syndrome"
-Other Multics parallels include it being an elegant and very ambitious system, failure caused by performance and reliability problems, and lack of compatibility other systems (OS/360). It had serious stability and performance problems, for it had been snatched from its nest too young".
-IBM attempted to develop it on a very aggressive schedule with a large staff of programmers to compete with Multics
-In February 1968 there were eighteen S/360-67 sites attempting to run TSS. IBM announced via "blue letter" that TSS was being decommitted, and scraped the project in 1971

Character notes: ZOMG, it's Multics-sama's IBM counterpart! Except she didn't have the will to survive that Multics-sama did; nor was she able to successfully work though her problems to become a competent and stable (enough) person O__O'

Not surprisingly, I have TOS/360 listed as deceased.  All we have to do is change a letter to admit TSS/360 in the same boat.  -.-

IBM M44/44X-
-An experimental OS started in the mid 1960s, influenced by CTSS
-While it was used to explore the concepts of virtualization, it did not implement virtualization by a long shot
-Considered one of the best examples of experimental computing

Character notes: Notta : |

Certainly sounds like a deceased OS-tan to me too.  >.<

But since she did help pioneer virtualization, I suppose you could depict her as,... well,... whatever we use to characterize virtualization.  The first ambassador type?  The first hotel owner?  The first team leader?  The first simulator analyst?  Could be lot of things?  ^^;

IBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs

Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.

Wow, now we're getting really ancient -- she in fact PREDATES CTSS-sama, and is only a smidgen younger than GMOS-sama, so we're talking OLD as mole-asses here.  @v@

IBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs

Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.

Well right off the bat, I can imagine a certain resemblance to this [somewhat famous] historical figure:

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/daedalus.html

As for her own self, I can imagine she was also something of a hermit -- brilliant, but still left to her own devices.  I imagine she's deceased as well, although since her source is available I'll take a quick page from Princess Tutu's Drosselmeyer.  

Before her death, she managed to create a [kooky] mechanical version of herself that still continues her research and inventions in her steed, albeit at a slower and more inefficient pace.  This her doppleganger does in complete secrecy -- to find her secret laboratory is not unlike scouring the earth for some legendary treasure.

Okay, so a few quick concept sketches for CP/CMS-sama

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/Copy_of_img358.jpg

She's practically the personification of Goddess Metis herself.  ^^

*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto her leg*

Sorry, I'm appropriating her.  She's mine, all mine.  None for you.  ^.^

and TSS/360-san (aka IB-M-ultics)

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/img357.jpg

And this one,... as stunning as Goddess/Titaness Rhea herself.  ^.^

Drippingly-beautiful,... I fear I could defect from the Multics-sama camp with that jewelry and that hair,... poof....

*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto HER leg*

MINE!!!!!!  ^V^

*realizes he's stretched between two Mainframe-tans*

Eeeep............... I didn't think this through, did I?  ^^;

[Bella]

Hmmm,... I actually don't recall we ever talking about TOPS-san to such a great extent, although since the topic did surface before I suppose you're right. Since she is an ancestral DEC, as stated in this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS-10

...I suppose she would have had her militaristic side. And while she's old and wise in her present day self, she's also very laid-back and something of a slacker. ^^;

I envisioned her present-day self as having a very sly but otherwise unimposing figure -- Mitsune from Love Hina might be a helpful reference character. Her past self, though, is purely fair game -- although given her DEC lineage and her modern-appearance, a great reference character for her abilities/peronsality might be King Bradley from you-know-where. ^^

Yay, I do know where. I have a few thoughts about her appearance...it'd be better to sketch 'em up than to just ramble about them, I suppose. But basically, I see her as being well-built, with long hair and dressed like a general (complete with the metals and everything). The colors I'm a bit clueless on, perhaps she should have lighter hair/eyes as so many DEC-tans have darker color schemes?

You and me both, sister. XvX

Either way you look at it, though, we're talking hardcore Mainframe-tan here. ^^

I'm actually fairly intrigued about her descendant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z/VM

Even though it's a bit unfair to do this, considering this was glossed over with z/OS-sama,... supposing we had CP/CMS be one of them "evolutionary" OS-tans that just grows with age with each new release. ^^

Yeah she would be alive today under the name of VM/370. I do try to bundle as many OS releases into one -tan as I can...

I previously covered the OS series, the DOS series and TPF in my annex, but didn't realize the importance of the VM series and glossed over the imported systems.

If you feel like opening a can of worms, the Mainframe-tans offer a story value that would put Greek God mythologies to shame. And this coming from stories of Chronus eating a rock, thinking it was his son Zeus. ^^;

I dunno if I'll open that can of worms; I always supposed the older mainframe-tans were a lot more...figuratively and literally...down to earth than their modern counterparts. I do think only the newer generations of mainframe-tans fancy themselves goddesses.

Cause if you think about it, back in the 60s, nothing was particularly special about mainframes--they were just computers. But nowadays with so many PCs, servers and minicomputers, mainframes do seem more exotic and rare in a way.

Not that the ancient IBM mainframe-tans wouldn't be spectacularly powerful, though.

Ah yes, this is going to get messy very quickly. ^v^
By comparison, the stories of PC-DOS and OS/2 are peaceful.

Should probably note that the "opening" of their x86 hardware did much to advance computer usage -- although it was thanks to their own version of beaurocratic "red tape" that they failed to capitalize on that. Indeed, the Linux-tans are helping them rise from out of their own ashes -- but the IBM Mainframe-tans are surely to proud to acknowledge this. ^^

I bet

With that name, it's kinda a no-brainer. Yes. ^.^
We shall call her the Goddess of Music.

Somehow I see her with a harp XD

Not surprisingly, I have TOS/360 listed as deceased. All we have to do is change a letter to admit TSS/360 in the same boat. -.-

WHA?! Not even one mention of the eerie parallels between TSS/360 and Multics-sama? Okay, I just mentioned it for you

FYI, there's another system I just read about called TSS 8 that was made at DEC (and is the ancestor of RSTS).

Certainly sounds like a deceased OS-tan to me too. >.<

But since she did help pioneer virtualization, I suppose you could depict her as,... well,... whatever we use to characterize virtualization. The first ambassador type? The first hotel owner? The first team leader? The first simulator analyst? Could be lot of things? ^^;

I have no ideas X__X

Wow, now we're getting really ancient -- she in fact PREDATES CTSS-sama, and is only a smidgen younger than GMOS-sama, so we're talking OLD as mole-asses here. @v@

Mole-asses? Mole-asses?! You mean, the business end of a mole?! WTF?!?!?!?

Well right off the bat, I can imagine a certain resemblance to this [somewhat famous] historical figure:

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/daedalus.html

As for her own self, I can imagine she was also something of a hermit -- brilliant, but still left to her own devices. I imagine she's deceased as well, although since her source is available I'll take a quick page from Princess Tutu's Drosselmeyer.

Before her death, she managed to create a [kooky] mechanical version of herself that still continues her research and inventions in her steed, albeit at a slower and more inefficient pace. This her doppleganger does in complete secrecy -- to find her secret laboratory is not unlike scouring the earth for some legendary treasure.

Those are excellent ideas, indeed!

She's practically the personification of Goddess Metis herself. ^^

*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto her leg*

Sorry, I'm appropriating her. She's mine, all mine. None for you. ^.^

Never mind that, why am I wanting to draw her and Multics-sama in their uber-rich versions of schoolgirl outfits O___o

And this one,... as stunning as Goddess/Titaness Rhea herself. ^.^

Drippingly-beautiful,... I fear I could defect from the Multics-sama camp with that jewelry and that hair,... poof....

*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto HER leg*

MINE!!!!!! ^V^

*realizes he's stretched between two Mainframe-tans*

Eeeep............... I didn't think this through, did I? ^^;

Joke's on you, now you're stuck on a psychotic unstable nut-case  ;026

[ShinzuiUindo]

Standing animation W.I.P.
This is a gif file. The first frame is 5 seconds.

[NejinOniwa]

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*looks away*
tehe!

[Smokey]

Dood! I want that animated-gif-drawing paperz too...

Nah, for real... Slick work... ;010