OS-tan theories and disscusion

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Alfamille

Quote from: "Bella"
And OMG...A SOLARIS mascot, too!


Thanks for finding the early Solaris-tan Bella! Magical Toko-chan is already mentioned in our Introduction wiki article before. So thanks again! :D

Quote from: "Bella"Plus, when confronted with attack, her magnetic field would probably light up in a spectacular way (think, the Northern Lights).

...which is also called Aurora Borealis :P

Toki

CUTE IS JUSTICE!!

Bella

QuoteAha! So you found her. ^^
Now you know where I got the blue hair reference from. ^^
Could be her when she was in her VERY BRIEF preschool days. ^___^'

I might try drawing her in that uniform...it'll be much more mature looking, of course.

QuoteAh yes, the pigtailed-girl is clearly SunOS-chan, who I've always pictured as the childhood version of Solaris-sama (just like how Project Indiana is simply Solaris-sama trying desperately to imitate her arch rival). ^v^;

Solaris-sama is still oft-overlooked, but I saw very quickly that you tried to fix that (in a sketch at least). ^^

Yeah, just like how I think a SLS Linux (the first distro, if I read correctly)-tan would be a younger version of my beloved Slackware-chan...

QuoteThanks for finding the early Solaris-tan Bella! Magical Toko-chan is already mentioned in our Introduction wiki article before. So thanks again!

I was pretty surprised by the find myself...

Quote...which is also called Aurora Borealis :P

Of course! But only in the Northern Hemisphere. In the Southern they're called aurora australis.

Incidentally, I once saw the northern lights...probably one of the most incredible things I've ever seen...

Quoteo.o;; * falls over *

I'm guessing, the cute meganekko Solaris-chan caused that swoon...?

Anyhow, you guys know how, in my many accidental blasphemings regarding Unix-sama, I tend to get a lot of literature thrown at me. Well, yesterday, I finally got hit with something more interesting than the Unix Hater's Handbook;  the Art of Unix Programming.

Now, of course, I skipped all the technical mumbo-jumbo...but I came upon what is probably the most fascinating and moving summary of the history of Unix I've ever read, from its roots in CTSS, to the cause of the Unix Wars, and its undeniable parallels with Linux. It's a bit long, but absolutely worth a read. There are a few other interesting chapters involving the history of Unix, as well...

http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html

Not to mention I've gotten a ton of new ideas backstory ideas for Unix-sama, Linux-sama, and the Unix family in general...

C-Chan

OMG!!!!  @v@

Is that the UNIX equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls?!!!  @o@

*holy swoon!!!!!!!!!*

Bella

QuoteOMG!!!! @v@

Is that the UNIX equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls?!!! @o@

*holy swoon!!!!!!!!!*

The Dead C Scrolls, you mean?

But after reading that, I've discovered a lot of shocking revelations about the Unix-sama's past...

-I read that for much of its early history, Unix was, more or less, "open source" and non-commercial, and everyone was quite happy with this. Only when companies tried to commercialize Unix did the "spritz start to hit the fan", as it were; it can be argued that commercialization caused the Unix wars. I now think that, in Unix-sama's past, one of the biggest themes would be the struggle between doing what she thought was right and doing what pleased her "corporate masters".
-Bell Lab's Unix code was passed around almost without restraint...okay, well AT&T tried to restrain it, but they utterly failed. Therefore...Unix-sama was the world's first Open Sourceress!
-After a 1958 antitrust case, AT&T was forbidden to enter the computer market, so selling Unix as a product would have set them up for lawsuits. So, Ken Thompson, not being forbade from doing so, used to send out disks and tapes to potential users. Therefore...Unix-sama was quite a rebel!

Smokey

I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do what you tell me to do... Bender the Great) :/
[Img disabled by Fedora-Tan]
Thanks Fedora-sama
Homer no function beer well without (Homer Simpson) ^_^

C-Chan

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!  @o@
Alll these incredible edible revelations!!!!!!!!!!!  ;^0^;

*rolls up article and eats it*

I'm not sure if the world is ready to handle the truth.  There is dogma to maintain, peoplez!  ^0^

Bella

QuoteCool...Rock on, Unix-sama!!!

Yay! Brother Smokey hath foundith the awesomeness of Unix-sama! The Goddess shall be happy! :P

QuoteOMG!!!!!!!!!!! @o@
Alll these incredible edible revelations!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;

*rolls up article and eats it*

I'm not sure if the world is ready to handle the truth. There is dogma to maintain, peoplez! ^0^

I know! I'd like to write more (I think I've finally figured out why Unix-sama likes Linux-sama when so many other Unix-tans don't!), but...I've been kinda busy lately...not to mention, if I go any farther, I'll be baked into a pie and served for dessert!

I was wondering, however, considering what an innovation "pipes" were in Unix, how could reference be worked into Unix-sama's backstory?

Should she....
-Have a hobby as a flautist?
-Be a really excellent pipe organist?
-Or, should she just have a trust lead pipe which she uses against those who try to mess with her? Considering she's a New Jersey native and all, this could work quite well....

Smokey

she may be moonshining as a cab-driver too :D
I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do what you tell me to do... Bender the Great) :/
[Img disabled by Fedora-Tan]
Thanks Fedora-sama
Homer no function beer well without (Homer Simpson) ^_^

C-Chan

QuoteI know! I'd like to write more (I think I've finally figured out why Unix-sama likes Linux-sama when so many other Unix-tans don't!),

Fufu... is this part of the whole "unofficial First Open Sourceress" thing?  ^____^

Quotebut...I've been kinda busy lately...not to mention, if I go any farther, I'll be baked into a pie and served for dessert!

I'm assuming that's because you're full of sap and would make a great dessert.  I seem destined to be a breakfast item.  ^___^'

QuoteI was wondering, however, considering what an innovation "pipes" were in Unix, how could reference be worked into Unix-sama's backstory?

Should she....
-Have a hobby as a flautist?
-Be a really excellent pipe organist?
-Or, should she just have a trust lead pipe which she uses against those who try to mess with her? Considering she's a New Jersey native and all, this could work quite well....

Ummm............  ^^;

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Ano,... eto..... sono.....

There might be a way to work this into her backstory without having to be assaulted by a barrage of tax publications.  ^^;

Ever wondered why she always carries around the Unix Staff with her?  ^_________________^;

NejinOniwa

QuoteEver wondered why she always carries around the Unix Staff with her? ^_________________^;
So that she could have a bunch of people to yell at when she's bored.

My brain is twisted these days... >_>
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

C-Chan

QuoteSo that she could have a bunch of people to yell at when she's bored.

Errr!  wrong!!!!!!!!  ^V^

So she could have a bunch of people to bash on the head when she's bored!  ^______________^

Yep, not even close... -v-

NejinOniwa

YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

Bella

Quoteshe may be moonshining as a cab-driver too

Ooooooh...snaaaaap!

*sighs*

Ah, Smokey, we knew ye well...:P

QuoteFufu... is this part of the whole "unofficial First Open Sourceress" thing? ^____^

That's just a part of it...but when you think about it, both Unix and Linux have some eerie historic similarities:

Both were born as small, I daresay unambitious projects, built on humble hardware; neither were designed to be revolutionary, yet have had great impact on the computer industry, impact I don't think their creators envisioned. Neither received a lot of funding nor support initially, and were started by small development teams; both relied on community efforts, and flourished under environments where their code was shared freely; and have been hindered by corporate interference and factional infighting. Of course, this last part has been much more prevailent in the case of Unix...this corporate involvement, and subsequent devision of supporters nearly cost it its life, sparked the Unix wars, and harmed its acceptance by consumers. At this point, the PC/microcomputer revolution was happening; but the Unix supporters were so busy warring that they missed out on what could have secured a sure future for themselves. In the case of Linux...hopefully, history won't repeat itself.

So, I suppose, Unix-sama would view Linux-sama as being much like herself; much like herself, if only she had followed her own better judgment more, and corporate masters less. While they don't share a drop of blood, their life experiences make them related in a way...and somehow I think Unix-sama would feel almost obliged to try to keep Linux-sama and her children from suffering the same fate as her family. But, of course, she can only advise them...at the end of the day, it's up to them to decide their own destiny...

And then there's other things, like neither were necessarily born with any powers, but gained them from others (Unix-sama got them from Multics-sama though force, but Linux-sama gained them from the... "GNU people" or whatever...with her own personal merits)

QuoteUmmm............ ^^;

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Ano,... eto..... sono.....

There might be a way to work this into her backstory without having to be assaulted by a barrage of tax publications. ^^;

Ever wondered why she always carries around the Unix Staff with her? ^_________________^;

True, true, but you know I can't pass up any occassion for a Unix-sama-being-a-New-Jerseyite joke...

It's just too freaking funny!

*has lead pipe, flute and pipe organ dropped on me*

QuoteErrr! wrong!!!!!!!! ^V^

So she could have a bunch of people to bash on the head when she's bored! ^______________^

Yep, not even close... -v-

Just ask Slackware-chan O__o

C-Chan

QuoteSo, I suppose, Unix-sama would view Linux-sama as being much like herself; much like herself, if only she had followed her own better judgment more, and corporate masters less. While they don't share a drop of blood, their life experiences make them related in a way...and somehow I think Unix-sama would feel almost obliged to try to keep Linux-sama and her children from suffering the same fate as her family. But, of course, she can only advise them...at the end of the day, it's up to them to decide their own destiny...

OMG,... now that's what I call "deep thinking".  @v@
So you could almost say that UNIX-sama and Linux-sama....... might as well be soul mates of sorts?  ^____^

So different yet so much alike, bridging past and present, and living out eachother's lives while striving for a common future... I reckon Carl Jung would have a field day with this....  -v-

QuoteAnd then there's other things, like neither were necessarily born with any powers, but gained them from others (Unix-sama got them from Multics-sama though force, but Linux-sama gained them from the... "GNU people" or whatever...with her own personal merits)

Both command respect, but very different degrees of it.  UNIX-sama you respect because you FEAR her and what she can do to you. Linux-sama you respect because she INSPIRES you to be more than what you feel you're fated to be.

Technically-speaking, Linux-sama's respect should be more prone to abuse -- in practice, though, the drive is so deep it often reaches theocratic proportions (aka, religious zeal), which as history shows can be underestimated at one's own peril.

QuoteTrue, true, but you know I can't pass up any occassion for a Unix-sama-being-a-New-Jerseyite joke...

It's just too freaking funny!

*has lead pipe, flute and pipe organ dropped on me*

At this rate, it won't be long before she suspends you over a vatch of noxious chemicals (Jersey-style).  :P