OS-tan theories and disscusion

[Techno the fox]

Oh jeez, is it even possible to catch up to all I've missed in my absence?

I can tell just by taking a quick glance at this topic that the sap levels are reaching critical mass. O.O But then again, the *Nix-tans and most of Multics-sama's decendents just seem to create sap wherever they go.
(Oh man, I'm a goner)

I'll probably be visiting Inferno-chan in Unix hell soon. -_-;;

Firstly, I have a good explanation for my lack of postings...I've been frickin sick. -_- Seems everyone in my town is sick with some kind of contageous virus. I'm very glad to say that I'm well now.

Also, here's just an Idea that's been leaping around in my mind.
I've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)

- UNIX-sama eventually cedes her thrown to Linux-sama, and retires to life along wtth the Vintage-tans.
- During particular hard times, some of the escaping Windows-tans do get helped out by VMS-sama, where the truth is finally revealed. While they may lose a dynasty, they gain a hidden heritage.
- OS/2-sama never does get Open Sauced, but eComstation-tan does (or at least partially) and is able to carry on the lineage. Meanwhile, OS/2 retires and sits at the same table with Mac-tan and 95-tan. ^.^'
- The Mainframe Guild has been changed dramatically thanks to the Linuces, and has opened up to the rest of the world in a highly-coordinated effort to become fast, small, efficient and power-saving. The days of imposing, hulking, close-minded giants is a footnote in history.
- The Binteji Renmei grows in size, membership and influene -- coupled with strong ties to the Linux Federation and the prestige of some of its high-grade members (e.g., UNIX-sama), it is literally a forced to be reckoned with. A consciousness of "old is beautiful" is able to make its small renaissance around the world.
- Many more open source competitors have emerged over the years since (including one led by Inferno-chan), but the nature of things forces a regress to the age of chivalric battles.
- Amiga-sama is also able to become open-sourced finally. Despite her age, she is able to get married, form a proper family, and use her powers to help people like never before

"Uhhh, we kinda lost the source code ^_^;;"
~IBM Flunkie

And don't forget the MEWVZLDAW7 Club! (Mac Evangelists Windows Vista Zealots and Linux Diciples Against Windows 7)

Aww, sounds like a happy ending for Amiga-sama.

One can only imagine what kind of conversations 95-Tan, Mac-tan, and OS/2-tan would have at that table..

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[C-Chan]

Firstly, I have a good explanation for my lack of postings...I've been frickin sick. -_- Seems everyone in my town is sick with some kind of contageous virus. I'm very glad to say that I'm well now.

Poor Techno-san has been, not only sick, but freakin sick too.  ^__^'

Also, here's just an Idea that's been leaping around in my mind.
I've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)

*puts several high denomination bills on the stage*

Hey, don't mind at all being her small if it'll attract FreeB-chan.  Dontcha worry,... I'll,.... um,................. "protect" her in case FreeB-chan strikes........... yeah.............  Mmmmm-hmmmmmm........  ^___^

No but seriously, that's a good idea.  ^^

"Uhhh, we kinda lost the source code ;;"
~IBM Flunkie

BASTARDS!!!!!!!  >0<

And don't forget the MEWVZLDAW7 Club! (Mac Evangelists Windows Vista Zealots and Linux Diciples Against Windows 7)

WAAAAH?!!!  No BSD Users?  @.@
Or is this,....... more proof to the suspicions that Windows 7 will be BSD-based?!!! @o@

*curls into a ball and shudders at future*

Aww, sounds like a happy ending for Amiga-sama.

I figured that after 50 years, she'd need at least SOME kind of nice ending.  ^^;

One can only imagine what kind of conversations 95-Tan, Mac-tan, and OS/2-tan would have at that table..

I kinda think of them as being like Apple ][-chan, PETchan and AtariDOS-chan act now.  Before they used to be fervent rivals, now they're like gossipy sisters who seem as inseparable as gum on a shoe.  ^____^

Oh, and Bella-san, I'll be back.  ^.^

[Bella]

Oh, and Bella-san, I'll be back. ^.^

*calls collection agency*

Nah, I kid. But I have been trying to return balance to the posts here...that, and I've been a bit busy

[C-Chan]

Okay this is it....  ^o^

*rolls up sleeves*

Today is the day I redeem myself!!  ^0^

C-CHAN FIGHT-O!!!!!!!!  ^0^

*starts typing furiously*

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Oh shoot,... now that I think about it,.... where do I start?  @@;
I've been so out of it lately....?  @__@;

*picks random starting point*

I love that smiling shark too

Helluva starting point..... @x@;

Oh yeah, Slackware-chan was the first Linux distro (but it went by SLS back then)...

But I gotta tell DSL and Puppy-tan...for hipsters, they sure have old skool retro GUIs

Now now,... that's not a retro look,... that's an urban inner-city look.  `v'
They may look innocent, but they're both from the "Hood".... wherever that may be.  -v-;

If you ask me, the Macs have already taken the cake for the most popular computer/OS. Just about everyone, computer-oriented or not, knows something about them, and a great deal like them. Even if they aren't quite sure what exactly they like, there's just something about Macs that intrigue people

But then again,... you live where you live, where EVERYONE and their dog has a Mac.  ^___^;
Might skew your views on things.  ^.^;

As for them Open Sourcerers....they have a ways to go...

Well that future projection is based under the assumption that there's a major (and perhaps forced shift) in the world's polarity.  So as developing economies grow larger, where Open Source has a strong foothold, the greater the likelihood that we'll see some major and quite shocking culture shift.  O__O

Aw, handing the reins over to Linux-sama I can deal with...but Unix-sama running off to the Vintage-tans...? Noooooooo....!!! For thine Goddess shall reign forever, and ever, and ever!

I wouldn't really call it "running off",... just some kind of graceful "semi-retirement".  She can still pull some strings and old favors, but just doesn't want to put up with the burden is all.   ^.^;

Linux-sama changes a lot in these future scenarios, and certainly has to rethink some of her earlier ideals to adapt to unchangeable realities and inevitable sorrows.  In a way history manages not to repeat itself, but it doesn't make things any less bittersweet for her.  :|

Oh yeah...when M$ trashes NT beyond repair (which may have already happened) and decides to ste...I mean to say, implement, a Unix-like system, I can see the NT clan running off to Grandma. After all, there always was something about NT-san and VMS-sama nobody could quite put their finger on /quote]

Gee,... wonder what that could be.  ^v^

A Mac, a 95 and an OS/2 walk into a bar....

You get the idea.  ^.^

Ahhh, yes, the gentle Linux mainframes

Not sure if "gentle" is the right word,... but yeah,... at least more pragmatic and down to earth.  ^.^

Considering the number of people who believe the lifespan for a computer or OS is no more than a few years, I wouldn't put money on it T__T

This again is in line with the multipolar world expectation.  Many sectors of the underdeveloped world still consider 2400 baud modems high-tech, and could probably make use of obsolete hardware IF they had access to it and IF they had some semblance of security.  (which currently is quite impossible in over 90% of the world).  TT;

Chivalric battles...? Oooookay....

Even though there would be some variations, Open Source OSes (by their very nature) wouldn't compete destructively but constructively.  They'd probably aim for a set ambition, like say a space race, and pour every available resource to expand, explore, colonize,... pretty much advance computer race as we know it.  It would be an era of relative peace, much deserved after a terrible period that would likely overshadow the OS wars of the 90's in terms of shear brutality.

Married...!?!?!?! Children?!?!?! Miggy-sama?!?!?!

Would be nice.... I'm not holding my breath, though.

Well Miggy-sama has children now,... just not really a family.  ^____^
I'm hopeful,... surely after 30 years SOMETHING's gotta give. ^v^;

Yes, but I always though Lisa-tan chose not to talk. I think DTSS-tan would be physically unable : |

Awww.... @___@

Yay! Amazing insight! Do I get a prize?

And if you want to carry the point even further, perhaps Multics-sama's loss of power to Unix-sama was some ill-guided attempt, even subconsciously, to rid herself of that power. Perhaps Multics-sama placed it on Unix-sama as some kind of hindrance; assuming that it would sabotage her daughter as it impeded herself...

Well that kinda would make Multics-sama particularly fiendish.  On the other hand,....

Supposing she didn't want that power, but also unconsciously didn't want her daughter to suffer from it, hence why she did everything in her own power to deter UNIX-sama's efforts to vanquish her.  

Then the moment she falls to that terrible defeat would have been even more horrifying for MULTICS-sama,... not only does she lose her power and her status, but also fails to stop her daughter from being cursed with that very power!  @@

The burden of it would be lifted, but replaced with everlasting guilt and sadness.

That's true. But I do suppose the worse time for her, physically and mentally, would have been her early life (as I said before, many thought Multics would never be built). Even after loosing her power things were fairly steady, with the occasional skirmish (GECOS-san, corporate higher-ups) here and there...I don't think events would have taken a turn for the worse until the late 80s though the 90s (as that's when systems started being shut down).

Yeah, now that you mention it, that makes sense.  ^__^

Incidentally,... would love to see an uber-awesome depiction of GECOS-sama sometime.  ^v^

Exactly. I think Multics-sama would have had a fear of dying alone and forgotten (a la CTSS-sama), so perhaps realizing that somebody...her daughter...remembered her would have somehow lifted her spirits, even though she knew she was finally going to meet her fate -___-

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SAP THREAT LEVEL: MONUMENTAL  

Amen to that SAP LEVEL.  ;@v@;

Assuming something gets done with the MULTICS code, there's still plenty of room for the sage to continue, as we once surmized.  I keep in mind that a remergence of MULTICS-sama would have at least some role to play in UNIX-sama's would-be retirement.

Oh, it's not VMS I'm scared of...it's the VMS fans...

http://deathrow.vistech.net/

Holy hell!  For a moment there, I thought that was an inmate asylum.  ^^;

[Bella]

Yay! Balance has been returned to the universe, or at least this thread

Now where do I start?!

But no seriously,... I've thought of 101 ways to draw Colossus-hime, and most of them are not PG-rated. -v-;

I'd say we have to look FAAAAAAAAR back beyond the Greeks for her design. Say,.... have you ever read Clan of the Cave Bear? `v'

Lemme guess...a bearskin bikini...?

Actually, maybe I don't want an answer O___o

I do have to admit, MULTICS-sama has come along way since my 10-cent story. ^.^

Ah, the 10-cent story. I gotta say that tale made me look at Multics and Unix-sama a lot differently.

But the more I read about Multics, the more I started to see Multics-sama in a new light...

You know, the story also has some parallels with Apple Lisa as well.
Sure it was built, but it was too complicated and expensive for its own good, and even many within Apple were sure it would fail. And ultimately, she succumbed to her lighter, cheaper, simpler sister. ^___^

Course, Lisa-san is still alive, though. -v-;

Now that you mention it, the two do share a lot in common...

Well if you think about it, that kind of life is a bit monotonous. Normal-minded people at least get bored with monotony, and secretly crave for something different and adventurous to save them from being physically and mentally "caged up". The girl from Titanic, for instance. ^^

Exactly. And in Multics-sama's case, it makes me think of the saying "money can't buy happiness"....

BWAHAHA!!!!!! ^v^
Well that's no surprise, though.... ALL young, stuffy aristocrats are made to learn that dead ol' language. ^.^
In my own schooling, I was told I could learn either latin, ancient greek or Japanese. Even though this was long before my Anime era, I still wanted Japanese either way because it seemed most,... relevant. ^___^

But surprise surprise....... I got Latin.... T__T

....Arbiter elegantiae -____-'

Aww, I always thought Latin was pretty interesting. Useful? Probably not. But interesting.

Course, I love all matter of old stuff XD

Darn, it says I'm forbidden to access the server. ;__;

Can ya see it now?

Or you can make them 'Monsters Inc'-style not-too-creepy characters. ^___^'

Or I can cop out and make 'em cute little cherub-like creatures. With clothes, of course XD

Somehow I wonder if,... in her early fights with UNIX-sama,.... once couldn't have been able to distinguish which one of them is the child. ^v^;

You could say that. I think Unix-sama would have been born with age beyond her years...although Multics-sama certainly wasn't immature.

The thing on her right hand, though, is actually her mask. She's taking it off to pose fo rthe camera, much to the chagrin of the cameraman who now knows what she looks like (and now has to remain in the sub, either as a permanent guest, or shark food).

Oh, okay. I actually wasn't sure what it was ^///^

I'm trying to aim for at least two more major drawings,... a quick-shot of PilotOS, and the Amigoid family picture that will be kind of my farewell gift. That aside from my final collaborative works with you on Zerosanity Xmas and Bella with the Userspace Gang pic, and after that I'll pretty much go into semi-Retirement Mode.

We could still see the Amiga family, huh?

I can tell just by taking a quick glance at this topic that the sap levels are reaching critical mass. O.O But then again, the *Nix-tans and most of Multics-sama's decendents just seem to create sap wherever they go.

With a lineage that old, there's gonna be some drama in the past

Hope you're feeling better, though!

I've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)

I always assumed she'd be a miniature OS-tan, if only because of the iPod-tans

Your ideas sound good! And of course, if you have any questions, we'd love to help!

But then again,... you live where you live, where EVERYONE and their dog has a Mac. ^___^;
Might skew your views on things. ^.^;

*starts waving NH flag*

Well that future projection is based under the assumption that there's a major (and perhaps forced shift) in the world's polarity. So as developing economies grow larger, where Open Source has a strong foothold, the greater the likelihood that we'll see some major and quite shocking culture shift. O__O

Yeah, I can see where open source stuff could very possibly take off in less developed markets...

I wouldn't really call it "running off",... just some kind of graceful "semi-retirement". She can still pull some strings and old favors, but just doesn't want to put up with the burden is all. ^.^;

Linux-sama changes a lot in these future scenarios, and certainly has to rethink some of her earlier ideals to adapt to unchangeable realities and inevitable sorrows. In a way history manages not to repeat itself, but it doesn't make things any less bittersweet for her.

Do you mean, Linux-sama changes as she starts to become more powerful and...I dare say...commercial....and perhaps loses some touch with her very humble roots?

Of course, in that case, great power does come with great responsibility...

(why do I keep mentioning these adages?)

Even though there would be some variations, Open Source OSes (by their very nature) wouldn't compete destructively but constructively. They'd probably aim for a set ambition, like say a space race, and pour every available resource to expand, explore, colonize,... pretty much advance computer race as we know it. It would be an era of relative peace, much deserved after a terrible period that would likely overshadow the OS wars of the 90's in terms of shear brutality.

Oh, I see. Currently...for all the alternate OSs that are becoming more mainstream (OS X included), it's quite peaceful. I think it's because they've realized nobody's going to pull off another M$-like takeover, and the best thing is to win users one niche market at a time and by focusing on quality.

Well Miggy-sama has children now,... just not really a family. ^____^
I'm hopeful,... surely after 30 years SOMETHING's gotta give. ^v^;

Well, if open-sourcing happened to Multics-sama it could happen to anyone. And Miggy-san has the key advantage of being able to run on modern hardware

Supposing she didn't want that power, but also unconsciously didn't want her daughter to suffer from it, hence why she did everything in her own power to deter UNIX-sama's efforts to vanquish her.

Then the moment she falls to that terrible defeat would have been even more horrifying for MULTICS-sama,... not only does she lose her power and her status, but also fails to stop her daughter from being cursed with that very power! @@

The burden of it would be lifted, but replaced with everlasting guilt and sadness.

That sounds about right to me.

*basks in the sap*

Yeah, now that you mention it, that makes sense. ^__^

Incidentally,... would love to see an uber-awesome depiction of GECOS-sama sometime. ^v^

Well, I sketched GECOS-sama...and I swear I really do want to do finished drawings of GECOS, WAITS, DTSS, CTSS-sama, etc. Basically all the pre-70s OS-tans.

I just can't figure what I wanna do for a picture with GECOS-sama. Any suggestions...?

Assuming something gets done with the MULTICS code, there's still plenty of room for the sage to continue, as we once surmized. I keep in mind that a remergence of MULTICS-sama would have at least some role to play in UNIX-sama's would-be retirement.

Now that would be irony. Unix-sama stepping down and Multics-sama taking her place XD

*waits for piano to fall on head*

Holy hell! For a moment there, I thought that was an inmate asylum. ^^;

Now you know how I felt XD

I was trying to access the system with the HyperTerminal...sadly, they don't give a link (or even any clues) like the hobbyist sites for RSTS...

Anyhoo, I bit back I came up with an idea for a Uncyclopedia-tan. I love Uncyclopedia XD

I think she'd be something of a stand-up comedian, dressed akin to Wikipe-tan. She's irreverent and absurd with a dryly scathing sense of humor though which she often tells some truth. She'd be a terrible person if she wasn't such an equal-opportunity offender, with nobody and nothing off-limits to her.

She enjoys reading from her UnBooks, and wears a potato-shaped hair clip (a nod to Uncyclopedia's logo, a hollowed-out potato called Sophia).

[Aurora Borealis]

Incidentally, I also wanted to make an Uncyclopedia-tan too! Personality-wise, she would have been very much like you suggested but appearance-wise, she'd have been based off of Oscar Wilde and wear a schoolgirl outfit (on the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!

[Techno the fox]

Okay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...

Seriously, who could've seen that fight comming?

Also, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)

But...On my way out of the store I saw this HUGE book staring up at me from atop a table with a whole bunch of other paperback books. (two of which were Bill Cosby). But this particular book caught my interest. It's a mammoth of a book titled. (The) Redhat Linux 9 Bible.
The front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.

Speaking of Redhat...I heard you're going to do something about the ZerOSanity Christmas special C-chan?

Also, something I just noticed. On the front of the Dreamcast, at the bottom, in very tiny text it says "Compatible with Windows CE".
I wonder if Dreamcast-tan may take anything from CE-tan.
Mabye she has fairy wings. Or CE's obsession for putting things where they don't belong.....You know what I mean.....


All this talk of things in the far future brings one thought to my mind...
Now of course this is a BIG "Mabye". But perhaps in the future Effie and her sister 4Chan-tan stop fighting/trying to destroy each other so much.

But no seriously,... I've thought of 101 ways to draw Colossus-hime, and most of them are not PG-rated. -v-;

Oh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.

Well if you think about it, that kind of life is a bit monotonous. Normal-minded people at least get bored with monotony, and secretly crave for something different and adventurous to save them from being physically and mentally "caged up". The girl from Titanic, for instance. ^^

That just reminded me of Haruhi.. "I hope something strange happens."

BWAHAHA!!!!!! ^v^
Well that's no surprise, though.... ALL young, stuffy aristocrats are made to learn that dead ol' language. ^.^
In my own schooling, I was told I could learn either latin, ancient greek or Japanese. Even though this was long before my Anime era, I still wanted Japanese either way because it seemed most,... relevant. ^___^

But surprise surprise....... I got Latin.... T__T

....Arbiter elegantiae -____-'

Hey, at least you can fully understand Multics-sama now.

Or you can make them 'Monsters Inc'-style not-too-creepy characters. ^___^'

I second that emotion.

Hope you're feeling better, though!

Thanks Bella, I'm glad to announce that I'm feeling much much better now. ^__^

I always assumed she'd be a miniature OS-tan, if only because of the iPod-tans  

Your ideas sound good! And of course, if you have any questions, we'd love to help!

Thanks.

Allright, I'm off!

[Bella]

Incidentally, I also wanted to make an Uncyclopedia-tan too! Personality-wise, she would have been very much like you suggested but appearance-wise, she'd have been based off of Oscar Wilde and wear a schoolgirl outfit (on the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!

I'll meet you halfway! Since I didn't have a very good idea for her costume, I'll probably dress her as a schoolgirl.

As for the Oscar Wilde influences....that might be a bit harder to work with

Okay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...

Seriously, who could've seen that fight comming?

Ooooh, I see you've been quite busy lately! But most importantly...Is that...Kyon...?

Also, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)

Wow! For only $17 bucks! That's a really good deal!

Hope you can find the cord you're looking for, too...

But...On my way out of the store I saw this HUGE book staring up at me from atop a table with a whole bunch of other paperback books. (two of which were Bill Cosby). But this particular book caught my interest. It's a mammoth of a book titled. (The) Redhat Linux 9 Bible.

The front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.

Bill Cosby books...what a neat find! Oh yeah, and the Redhat Linux Bible is okay too...

I kid, I kid. I wish I could find something cool like that at a thrift shop...but lucky me finds nothing but old computer monitors and tacky 80s clothing XD

By the way, do you know when the book was published? Out of personal curiosity

Also, something I just noticed. On the front of the Dreamcast, at the bottom, in very tiny text it says "Compatible with Windows CE".
I wonder if Dreamcast-tan may take anything from CE-tan.
Mabye she has fairy wings. Or CE's obsession for putting things where they don't belong.....You know what I

I know CE-tan is sometimes shown as standing by a Dreamcast logo, this explains it...

Now of course this is a BIG "Mabye". But perhaps in the future Effie and her sister 4Chan-tan stop fighting/trying to destroy each other so much.

Must have been a fireside singing of Kumbaya!

But it would be great if the two fighting siblings could find some peace

Oh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.

Speak for yourself, buddy ^///^

That just reminded me of Haruhi.. "I hope something strange happens."

Did...did...Haruhi and Multics-sama just get compared...?

I expect the end of the known universe any time now

I second that emotion.

Oh noes! I wants my little cherubs! ^_^

But...I should find a way to work the Multics Man daemons into their designs...

Thanks Bella, I'm glad to announce that I'm feeling much much better now. ^__^

Good to hear you're feeling well!

In other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...

I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....

And while researching BSD I found a couple very interesting sites:

http://www.princeton.edu/%7Emike/unixhistory

This has interviews with some of the creators of Multics and Unix. Shhh...don't tell anyone, but Unix may have been made because some people really liked Multics and CTSS and were sad to see them "fail" ;015

And a great little paper for peace between the different Unixes and their supporters:

http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pdf

Makes you think about what Plan 9-san's mindset would be...

[C-Chan]

OMG,.... @@;

I'm gonna need some caffeine.  ^____^;

*passes out, with wads of rainchecks in hand*

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Oh what the hay....

I always feel bad leaving your thread with all the rainchecks, especially after trying so hard doing all this research,....

Truth is I still have a little time left, so let me go through it real quick, even if it means some truncation.  ^__^

Just don't mind if I sound a little incoherent,... in all honesty, a little sleep deprivation is bound to make my mind a little flakey.  ^^:

Lemme guess...a bearskin bikini...?

Actually, maybe I don't want an answer O___o

Mmmm... yummy.... hadn't thought of that.  Thx.  OvO

*puts it down on idea pad*

Ah, the 10-cent story. I gotta say that tale made me look at Multics and Unix-sama a lot differently.

But the more I read about Multics, the more I started to see Multics-sama in a new light...

But like everything in life, the 10 cent story is the one that's made it in the history books.
Certainly the one all young Unices and Linuces everywhere are taught/tortured with in school. ^.^

Aww, I always thought Latin was pretty interesting. Useful? Probably not. But interesting.

Course, I love all matter of old stuff XD

You want old and interesting, learn Sanskrit and get yourself a copy of the Mahābhārata.  I would have given anything to have read that over attending those GAWD-awful classes.  T___T;

We could still see the Amiga family, huh?

I'll definitely see what I can do, but semi-retirement's a lot harder than I thought.  For one thing, I may have to be like a hermit-type, coming down from the mountains every month to issue a new OS-tan drawing that, under previous circumstances, could've probably been finished in a few days.  I suck, I know.... ^^;

However, the more I learn about the inner-working of PCLOS and Linux in general, the likelier the chance I can issue a special "PCLOS-tan" remaster.  What better way to make an homage to a beautiful, goddess-like OS-tan than to actually make an OS of her?  ^.^

At the very least, though, the idea had occurred to me yesterday to consider the possibility of using PCLOS-tan & Co. as mascots for a BASH learning game.  

Should THAT ever become a reality, would you be interested in testing?  'v'

Do you mean, Linux-sama changes as she starts to become more powerful and...I dare say...commercial....and perhaps loses some touch with her very humble roots?

Of course, in that case, great power does come with great responsibility...

(why do I keep mentioning these adages?)

Bwaha!  ^v^

Yes and now.  She's still a very selfless individual so she doesn't get in any way power-hungry.  However, it is true that the Linux family tree will probably fragment severely within the coming years (with the Software Libre and Commercial subfactions being particularly at eachothers throats, among others), and in order to restore some semblance of order she has to make many of the hard decisions that UNIX-sama has had to face during her own reign.  

So she too ends up yearning for the days when life was simpler and purer, but knows they can never return and understands that she can only move forward.

She is better at handling the "Curse", but it's still a curse.  
Like lipstick on a pig....  ^^;

Oh, I see. Currently...for all the alternate OSs that are becoming more mainstream (OS X included), it's quite peaceful. I think it's because they've realized nobody's going to pull off another M$-like takeover, and the best thing is to win users one niche market at a time and by focusing on quality.

Correct, but again I feel that can't last for long.  Eventually M$, stuck in the corner, will lash out for real and it would take a lot of energy to fight back.  Not to mention that bigger threats will manifest themselves from within, what with SUSE, Linspire, Xandros and Turbolinux trading their souls to meet their bottom line.

Well, if open-sourcing happened to Multics-sama it could happen to anyone. And Miggy-san has the key advantage of being able to run on modern hardware

Or at least one can hope.  ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....



Although the wings would definitely be larger,.....

In case you wondered where MOS-can got her wings, turns out mom had them locked up all along.  ^___^

That sounds about right to me.

*basks in the sap*

Incidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no?  ^^;

Well, I sketched GECOS-sama...and I swear I really do want to do finished drawings of GECOS, WAITS, DTSS, CTSS-sama, etc. Basically all the pre-70s OS-tans.

I just can't figure what I wanna do for a picture with GECOS-sama. Any suggestions...?

Yeah, but not sure if you would like it..... ^^;

See it had just occurred to me,.... I've never seen (or don't remember) you try your hand at chibi artwork before.  ^____^

Would you consider trying your hand at quick-deployment chibis?  ^.^

Now that would be irony. Unix-sama stepping down and Multics-sama taking her place XD

*waits for piano to fall on head*

You mean Lultics, no?  ^____^

But I'm thinking more of a scenario where a confrontation of that magnitude would blow open all the secrets out into the open, thus tearing the UNIX world apart.  However, it would also start to open channels of communication, which as you can imagine aren't really that plentiful now.  

For XYZ reason, she comes to peace with herself and her heritage, steps down (and lets Linux-sama take over), and retires to the nice sweet spot at the Binteji Renmei she reserved since she began funding it.  ^.^

And for once, she can finally live the remainder of her life as a [somewhat more normal] person.  -v-

Anyhoo, I bit back I came up with an idea for a Uncyclopedia-tan. I love Uncyclopedia XD

I think she'd be something of a stand-up comedian, dressed akin to Wikipe-tan. She's irreverent and absurd with a dryly scathing sense of humor though which she often tells some truth. She'd be a terrible person if she wasn't such an equal-opportunity offender, with nobody and nothing off-limits to her.

She enjoys reading from her UnBooks, and wears a potato-shaped hair clip (a nod to Uncyclopedia's logo, a hollowed-out potato called Sophia).

Eeep....... well guess it was only a matter of time before one of youz guys drew an Uncyclopedia-tan.  ^__________________^;

on the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!

............................................Okay, that just draws a "huh?" from me.  '';

Okay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...

Oooh,... sounds a lot like my life.  ^___^;
Great to see the MUGEN thing progressing well!

Also, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)

Hopefully that cord is cheap, and not like that infernal cable needed for those piece-o-crap Sega 32X's.  TT;

The front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.

Hey, it's probably based on old bids, but for 50 cents for sure that's always a bargain for a huge book.  I purchased an illustrative guide to Byzantine cathedral art and mosaics for that very same reason once (and I'm not a fan of Byzantine art, but what value!).  ^v^

Speaking of Redhat...I heard you're going to do something about the ZerOSanity Christmas special C-chan?

Ummm.............. try and finish it?  ^^;
But you saw my work on the last three pages in the Zerosanity thread, though.

Oh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.

No way, there are KIDS present!  ^0^
But if you want an idea, just watch Ultimate Girls.  ^___^

I'll meet you halfway! Since I didn't have a very good idea for her costume, I'll probably dress her as a schoolgirl.

As for the Oscar Wilde influences....that might be a bit harder to work with

Okay then,.... DOUBLE "huh?".  TT;

Speak for yourself, buddy ^///^

Hmmm... C-chan sees Bella-sama blush.
Hence C-chan can only conclude....

,..that she want to hear it too.  -v-

Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^

Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.

And fortunately, you can ALWAYS count on C-chan to be make due on his rainchecks,... riiiiiiiiiiight?  `v'

In other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...

I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....

Excellent.  ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic.  She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).

This has interviews with some of the creators of Multics and Unix. Shhh...don't tell anyone, but Unix may have been made because some people really liked Multics and CTSS and were sad to see them "fail"  

Under better circumstances then, CTSS-sama and Multics-sama would be proud of UNIX-sama.  ^___^

And a great little paper for peace between the different Unixes and their supporters:

http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pdf

Makes you think about what Plan 9-san's mindset would be...

My GAWDS what an article,.. it almost LOOKS like it was written by a UNIX-tan.  ^^;

Interesting, but the done line that sticks out from the rest does resonate:

Future:
Unixes of the World, Unite!

Let's hope they get it together.  ^___^
And tell Plan 9-sama to get it together, and drag her butt back home this instant!  ^0^

[Bella]

Oh what the hay....

I always feel bad leaving your thread with all the rainchecks, especially after trying so hard doing all this research,....

Truth is I still have a little time left, so let me go through it real quick, even if it means some truncation. ^__^

Just don't mind if I sound a little incoherent,... in all honesty, a little sleep deprivation is bound to make my mind a little flakey. ^^:

Incoherent? I have no qualms about incoherency!

But like everything in life, the 10 cent story is the one that's made it in the history books.
Certainly the one all young Unices and Linuces everywhere are taught/tortured with in school. ^.^

*imagines a bunch of young Linux-tans in schoolgirl outfits*

Brrrr! Now who's flaky?!

You want old and interesting, learn Sanskrit and get yourself a copy of the Mahābhārata. I would have given anything to have read that over attending those GAWD-awful classes. T___T;

You greatly overestimate meh language abilities!

I'll definitely see what I can do, but semi-retirement's a lot harder than I thought. For one thing, I may have to be like a hermit-type, coming down from the mountains every month to issue a new OS-tan drawing that, under previous circumstances, could've probably been finished in a few days. I suck, I know.... ^^;

However, the more I learn about the inner-working of PCLOS and Linux in general, the likelier the chance I can issue a special "PCLOS-tan" remaster. What better way to make an homage to a beautiful, goddess-like OS-tan than to actually make an OS of her? ^.^

Well, hopefully you'll still find a bit of free time to draw. And we're always here if you need help or suggestions

As for that goddess status of PCLOS-san...I have but one Goddess for I, and Unix-sama be thy name! And...Multics-sama. And VMS-sama. And I occasionally prostrate myself before Ubuntu-san. XD

At the very least, though, the idea had occurred to me yesterday to consider the possibility of using PCLOS-tan & Co. as mascots for a BASH learning game.

Should THAT ever become a reality, would you be interested in testing? 'v'

Sure!

Wait...what would I be testing exactly?

Yes and now. She's still a very selfless individual so she doesn't get in any way power-hungry. However, it is true that the Linux family tree will probably fragment severely within the coming years (with the Software Libre and Commercial subfactions being particularly at eachothers throats, among others), and in order to restore some semblance of order she has to make many of the hard decisions that UNIX-sama has had to face during her own reign.

Uh...oh...do I sense the Linux Wars...?

I suppose the Libre types would be the more open-minded and socialist (I guess you could go as far to say as the more devoted followers of Linux-sama's teachings), while the Commercial Linux-tans would be the more bottom-line types; following perhaps a more Unix-style business model (although not as cold and calculating), and even being willing to work with M$.

....At any rate, that sounds like a recipe for disaster O___O

So she too ends up yearning for the days when life was simpler and purer, but knows they can never return and understands that she can only move forward.

She is better at handling the "Curse", but it's still a curse.
Like lipstick on a pig.... ^^;

Well, surely Linux-sama and her family could handle power better. Hopefully....

Correct, but again I feel that can't last for long. Eventually M$, stuck in the corner, will lash out for real and it would take a lot of energy to fight back. Not to mention that bigger threats will manifest themselves from within, what with SUSE, Linspire, Xandros and Turbolinux trading their souls to meet their bottom line.

Like I always say about M$...I wouldn't put anything past them. But a lot of consumers seem to be getting fed up with their, to put it nicely, shenanigans...and I really can't see how M$ could lash out besides doing a lot of FUDing and frivolous SCO-like lawsuits.

I do think that the more likely scenario would be for them to hijack a Linux distro (like one you listed), and try to take out the competition from there. I think that this happening could even more more damaging than them just  attacking.

Or at least one can hope. ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....

Although the wings would definitely be larger,.....

In case you wondered where MOS-can got her wings, turns out mom had them locked up all along. ^___^

*imagines Miggy-sama with wings*

Hawt damn! You know how I love things with wings! It's a shame Amiga won't be open-sourced until 2031!

But at least now we have something to look forward to, should she get her "day of flight"

Incidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no? ^^;

Yeah, but not sure if you would like it..... ^^;

See it had just occurred to me,.... I've never seen (or don't remember) you try your hand at chibi artwork before. ^____^

Would you consider trying your hand at quick-deployment chibis? ^.^

Yeah, I've never done a chibi before, but I might be willing to try. I dunno if it would exactly fit GECOS-san though...I was thinking more like some kinda epic battle scene with Multics-sama or something.

Though I'm not exactly in the epic mood right now

You mean Lultics, no? ^____^

But I'm thinking more of a scenario where a confrontation of that magnitude would blow open all the secrets out into the open, thus tearing the UNIX world apart. However, it would also start to open channels of communication, which as you can imagine aren't really that plentiful now.

Oh now, if the Unix world wasn't...completely...torn apart by their war, I don't see how anything can. I could be wrong, though...

For XYZ reason, she comes to peace with herself and her heritage, steps down (and lets Linux-sama take over), and retires to the nice sweet spot at the Binteji Renmei she reserved since she began funding it. ^.^

And for once, she can finally live the remainder of her life as a [somewhat more normal] person. -v-

That would be nice for Unix-sama, but somehow I think it would be more difficult for her to step down than anyone else, if only for the fact that she has had such a reputation and legacy built around her (as in the 100s of operating systems that can call themselves "Unix-like")...

And "normal person" Unix-sama....I can't even process that! XD

Hmmm... C-chan sees Bella-sama blush.
Hence C-chan can only conclude....

,..that she want to hear it too. -v-

Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^

Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.

And fortunately, you can ALWAYS count on C-chan to be make due on his rainchecks,... riiiiiiiiiiight? `v'

*tears up C-Chan's raincheck*

^///////////////^

Excellent. ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic. She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).

And attitude-wise, I think she'd be the original rebel in the family; after all, Berkley got into a legal battle with Bell Labs (or was it AT&T at the time?) over the code BSD contained...I don't know if BSD-tan so much disliked her mother's tactics like Plan 9-san, but she certainly took a different path than most of her family...

I also figure she'd have somewhat long (blue) hair. Her outfit I'm having some trouble with, however...

Under better circumstances then, CTSS-sama and Multics-sama would be proud of UNIX-sama. ^___^

For sure! But that was a very "with-us-or-against-us" time; she was seen as nothing but a threat that needed to be dealt with -___-

I guess it's ironic that Multics gave so much inspiration for an OS that was the opposite of it...I mean, if Multics hadn't been built, or even hadn't failed, Unix probably would have never been born O___O

My GAWDS what an article,.. it almost LOOKS like it was written by a UNIX-tan. ^^;

Interesting, but the done line that sticks out from the rest does resonate:

Future:
Unixes of the World, Unite!

Let's hope they get it together. ^___^
And tell Plan 9-sama to get it together, and drag her butt back home this instant! ^0^

The lines I liked were:

The Good things about Unix are also its Bad things. The things that
made it successful also limited its success.

And

What is the best thing about Unix? The community.
What is the worst thing about Unix? That there are so many communities.

[Techno the fox]

Ooooh, I see you've been quite busy lately! But most importantly...Is that...Kyon...?

Yep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")

Wow! For only $17 bucks! That's a really good deal!

Hope you can find the cord you're looking for, too...

Thanks Bella, I went to ebay a few days ago to find that the cords are quite cheap. Between 7 and 15 Dollars. ^__^

Bill Cosby books...what a neat find! Oh yeah, and the Redhat Linux Bible is okay too...

I kid, I kid. I wish I could find something cool like that at a thrift shop...but lucky me finds nothing but old computer monitors and tacky 80s clothing XD

By the way, do you know when the book was published? Out of personal curiosity

Hmm, it's pretty recent.
"Copyright 2003 by Wiley Publishing Inc."

(that's the first time I've heard the word "Copyright" used in reference to something about linux)

Good to hear you're feeling well!

In other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...

I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....

Hmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.

Or at least one can hope. ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....

Oooooh. ^____^ Cuuute. I like this Idea.

Hopefully that cord is cheap, and not like that infernal cable needed for those piece-o-crap Sega 32X's. TT;

Tell me about it..
The 32X wasn't really worth it to me. I mean, it's graphics weren't really any better than the Sega CD's. To top that it didn't have many good games on it. Then, both the CD and the 32X  needed their own power cords and AV cords. They all used those huge plugs with the transformers on the end. To make all this worse, Sega release a select few games that required both a CD AND a 32X to run (called CD32X Games).
(I do believe Night Trap was one of these)
In order to play these not only would you need all three of the systems, but a power strip as well.(those huge plugs take up entire outlets)
These little Add-ons to the once great genesis weren't cheap either.

The Dreamcast  on the other hand was revolutionary. The graphics were good, It had good games, (Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Phantasy Star online, Ect.) and was even one of the very first consoles to feature Online play.

It struggled with a few things though, that would eventually cause it's downfall.
The first and most notable was this: It had to compete with the PS2.
(back in the console wars Sony pretty much crushed all who opposed it.)
It was also the only system capable of playing Homebrew games, Imports, and Roms right out of the box without any modding or additions.
This was good for gamers, but bad for Sega.
The online play too suffered, it had very few games that supported it. and eventually because of server problems, started charging money for it.

*looks at watch*
Oh, excuse me. I'm rambling on again..

Ummm.............. try and finish it? ^^;
But you saw my work on the last three pages in the Zerosanity thread, though.

Yes I did. and now thanks to you I'm In LOVE with a girl who I once dismissed as "Just another linux variant" Redhat-tan! ^____^

Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^

^__^ Yaay, *lecherous chuckle*

Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.

*falls flat on face*
Oh well, Cee does always hold true to his raincheks. (That just hit me, do you mind if I call you that?)

Excellent. ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic. She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).

Seems her design is comming along quite nicely.
That just reminded me though, the Unix family tree is more like a zoo.
And though she is a bit -out of the ordinary- I still can't help but gawk over how cute that giraffe girl is.
.......uhh....What was her name again? ^__^;;;

Incidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no? ^^;

Hey, is there room for more in there?
*jumps into the sap bucket with bella*
Add inferno-chan and we'd be hot tubbin'....or sitting in molasses..

*tears up C-Chan's raincheck*

^///////////////^

Ahahaha. It is useless, I've already made a mental note and I shall keep reminding C-chan until he gets it done.

That's all I have for this topic.
Seeya!

[C-Chan]

Don't worry, AS I HAVE ANOTHER ONE RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!  ^V^

*waves raincheck around*

But okay, I admit,... this one's only for forum responses.  ;____;

*cries and whimpers at lack of self-professed lechery*

[Bella]

Don't make me get my collection agency

I kid, I kid, have some DTSS-and-servant-sama:



And a preconcept for Uncyclopedia-tan:



Sorry for the scary quality. Still figuring out my new scanner, it's ruthless when it comes to detail O___o

[Aurora Borealis]

DTSS-tan: Very pretty! Even the servant is dressed elegantly too and much better than I visualized! (I was visualizing her as some sort of Cinderella-type figure as a maid in tattered clothes)

Uncyclopedia-tan: Schoolgirl uniform- CHECK! Also giving her short wavy brown hair can complete the Oscar Wilde reference to Uncyclopedia-tan's mentioning on Uncyclopedia's OS-tan article!

[NejinOniwa]

Uncyclopedia-tan?
WUT. LAWL. _W_

Needs moar pervy pimp pose, though.