OS-tan theories and disscusion

[C-Chan]

Awww, what a heart warming moment. (Well, sort of..)

Attaching the story to Aurora-hime's drawing,........  yeah,... a BIIIIIIIIIIIG "sort of".  ^^;

Yeah, but pretty soon I'm going to make a wiki style avatar of Fchan-tan.
Then that's going up there and staying for a while.

Kewl!  Just call me when she's finished.  I'll add it to the Wiki Avatar Gallery.  ^^

Hmmm, I think I'll try.......PCLinuxOS!
Didn't someone somewhere make a -tan of her?

Yeah,... we did.  ^__^
A Bella+C-chan hybrid....

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/PCLOS-tan.jpeg

Should probably warn that PCLOS 2007 is well over 8 months old now, and the 2008 version is due any day now.  MiniME 2008, a stripped-down version of PCLOS, is available but not exactly good for new users.  

'07 doesn't disappoint, but I'd recommend also trying out a newer distro (like the other top ones on the list) to see just how far they've evolved.  ^__^

Oooooooh! She's pretty. I just hope that her and Effie never get together. That could be a dangerous thing..

I picture the type of wacky, uber-eye-candy combo that you'd get from a Marvel vs Capcom fighting game.  ^____^;

Well, Apple I-tan may be dead....but for how long? I know a certain Bunny girl who could do something about that......Fufufufu.

It's sad that Plan 9-tan could very well be the Monty Python "Bunny of Death".....  ^^;

Hmmm, I wonder if she can emulate Effie.

Only if she's got a ROM, so in F-chan's case,.... hmmmm.... might require an upgrade.... TvT'

[Bella]

Here's what I've done with Inferno-chan so far:



Hope ya'll like the lighting, and hightlights...

I second the veritable hodge-podge of themes. It's like someone grabbed Panther-sama, AROS-chan and MOS-chan, and rolled them up into a BSD abomination.

Wow, you're right!

Actually,......... she more than knows about her. ^___^
Perhaps its because C-One is only a machine and thus very "pure", but UNIX-sama is fond of her and occasionally "borrows" her even. For what purposes, one can only wonder,... but with the right kind of contact lenses and some dark purple hair dye, you could theoretically end up with one very convincing decoy.

Oh, so she's just a machine.

And Unix-sama is fond of her? Wa...wha...Unix-sama is fond of somebody!? This is news to me! But surely there'd be many a use for a doppleganger of C-One's quality...maybe she does her bidding

Mmmmmm.... tough call actually.

Problem is,... there may be a BSD-tan out there already and it has blue hair. DOn't recall at the moment where, but Alfamille showed her to me once and the page may be accessible at the Wiki links (can't check out from my location).

Admittedly, the designed seemed far to juvenile for someone of her calibre, so I wouldn't mind a new take. -.-

Oh, I think I remember hearing about this...as for the blue hair, it could work well, since a lot of the *nix-tans have blue and purple hair of varying shades...

Awww, what a heart warming moment. (Well, sort of..)

Heartwarming in a User-Space gang kind way XD

Yeah, but pretty soon I'm going to make a wiki style avatar of Fchan-tan.
Then that's going up there and staying for a while.

Neat! Hope we see her soon!

Hmmm, I think I'll try.......PCLinuxOS!
Didn't someone somewhere make a -tan of her?

PCLOS! I've never used it, but I have used SAM which is a lightweight distro based off of it. Have you considered running it under VirtualBox, by any chance? And is the computer you're going to run it on a newer or older one?

I'm all for this Catgirl Idea, a bit of a way to show the relation between the BSDs and the OSX 10s.

Exactly!

Yeah,... we did. ^__^
A Bella+C-chan hybrid....

*Stares at PCLOS-sama*

*sighs*

It's sad that Plan 9-tan could very well be the Monty Python "Bunny of Death"..... ^^;

LOL!

DEATH BUNNY!  ;006

[Siya]

Hah!  MidnightBSD-tan ideas consolidated!

So, let's start with the head.  Here, we have a ribbon tied into a bow (which will be red).  She doesn't have cat ears, exactly, but her hair is put up to resemble a cat ear shape.  The hair will be black.

Her robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray.  It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day.  I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red.  She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings.  Also black shoes.  She will also have a black cat tail.  Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.

Added after 5 minutes:

Siya-san is one resourceful fellow -- but then again, he has Marc to help out so no fair.

Even though he does have his helpful moments, I'm more inclined to call Marc a distraction.

[Aurora Borealis]

Midnight BSD-tan looks mighty classy! (despite the style of her outfit being associated with prostitutes)

[C-Chan]

Here's what I've done with Inferno-chan so far:

Hope ya'll like the lighting, and hightlights...

*swoons hard and fast*  XvX

Believe you and me, I LUV what you did with the fire effect!  This is the kind of dynamic luminism I'd see in a Frederic Edwin Church painting!  ^____^

Also liked that you applied a lot of colored lighting to her as well.  ^.^

Hair looks good to, although the orange/red highlights look too timid.  To get that proper fiery affect -- they've go to absolutely sizzle in vibrance, almost as if they were as dynamic as the flame she's holding in her hands.  ^v^

Oh, so she's just a machine.

Well, okay an android.

Or more realistically,... a persecom rip-off.  ^^;

And Unix-sama is fond of her? Wa...wha...Unix-sama is fond of somebody!? This is news to me! But surely there'd be many a use for a doppleganger of C-One's quality...maybe she does her bidding

Oh now,... it's not like the Goddess is a [total] monster now.... ^___^
Even Hannibal Lecter had people he was fond of and was friends with (and just ate anyone who wasn't).  ^.^'

In much the same tone, there are individuals who -- through a combination of various traits that just happen to jive well with her -- don't invite her ire as easily.  They're free to talk to her with confidence, joke with her, philosophize with her, and generally make everyone else who has to put up with her fury quite jealous.  So far as I know, this includes:

- Linux-sama
- Amiga-san
- C-One
- EXEC-san
- ITS-san
- Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one)
- VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!)
- and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything)

You might discover a pattern with some of them, but others are a bit more complicated.  ^^

PCLOS! I've never used it, but I have used SAM which is a lightweight distro based off of it. Have you considered running it under VirtualBox, by any chance? And is the computer you're going to run it on a newer or older one?

SAM 2008 came out already, but honestly don't like it as much as the older one.  May have noticed I don't support it as much lately, for xyz reasons.   -___-

For a lightweigth PCLOS distribution, TinyMe is a very good choice.

Speaking of VirtualBox, here's an article you might be interested to read:

http://linuxhow2.com/Feature_Articles/VirtualBox_A_Review.html

*Stares at PCLOS-sama*

*sighs*

*GASPS*

OMG!!!!!  Bella-sama just sighed!!!!  @o@

THAT MUST MEAN SHE HATES OUR COLLABORATIVE PIC!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOO!!!!  ;^0^;

*C-Chan disintegrates into dust and blows off into the wind*

Her robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray. It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day. I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red. She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings. Also black shoes. She will also have a black cat tail. Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.

Aaa sou.... already gave my impressions on MidnightBSD-tan in your thread, but seeing the details certainly lends more depth.  ^__^
It's wonderful that the color scheme is already established, as it all but guarantees a colored design!  ^v^
(incidentally,... I'd try a red obi first)

I know I've been biting more than I could chew lately, but if you ever do need help coloring/shading one of your sketches,... I'm more than eager too.  ^>^

[Bella]

So, let's start with the head. Here, we have a ribbon tied into a bow (which will be red). She doesn't have cat ears, exactly, but her hair is put up to resemble a cat ear shape. The hair will be black.

Her robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray. It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day. I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red. She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings. Also black shoes. She will also have a black cat tail. Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.

Oooooh, pretty!

The hair in the shape of cat ears is a good call (I did something like this with Ultrix-tan, were instead of horns she had a couple of curls). The kimono is gorgeous, (and may I suggest some kind of butterfly pattern?). Overall she's sexy without being trashy....

But...what's up with all the hawt BSD-tans?

*swoons hard and fast* XvX

Believe you and me, I LUV what you did with the fire effect! This is the kind of dynamic luminism I'd see in a Frederic Edwin Church painting! ^____^

Also liked that you applied a lot of colored lighting to her as well. ^.^

Hair looks good to, although the orange/red highlights look too timid. To get that proper fiery affect -- they've go to absolutely sizzle in vibrance, almost as if they were as dynamic as the flame she's holding in her hands. ^v^

I added some yellow highlights to her hair:



Funny you should mention painting, as I used methods for painting flames in photoshop for the fire she's holding. I just...adjusted them for a vector program

Oh now,... it's not like the Goddess is a [total] monster now.... ^___^
Even Hannibal Lecter had people he was fond of and was friends with (and just ate anyone who wasn't). ^.^'

Hannibal Lecter and FreeBSD-tan both, eh?

In much the same tone, there are individuals who -- through a combination of various traits that just happen to jive well with her -- don't invite her ire as easily. They're free to talk to her with confidence, joke with her, philosophize with her, and generally make everyone else who has to put up with her fury quite jealous. So far as I know, this includes:

- Linux-sama
- Amiga-san
- C-One
- EXEC-san
- ITS-san
- Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one)
- VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!)
- and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything)

You might discover a pattern with some of them, but others are a bit more complicated. ^^

*Slackware-chan hopefully looks for her name*
*Not there? What the fsck!?* (<This is how Unix-likes curse, BTW)
*runs outta thread crying*

Hmmm...you've piqued my interest with this...So it's time to play...

Guess How Unix-sama likes this Random OS-Tan!

Linux-sama: As you've said before, the two are quite alike and share similar stories. Except Linux-sama never had corporate masters to impede her, or a war to mess up her family -__-

Amiga-san: This one really stumps me, since Miggy and Unix-sama are...like..polar opposites x10...but I can guess there's something about her kindness and selflessness Unix-sama admires...?

C-One: Cause C-One can be used to pacify Slackware-chan, of course!

EXEC-san: Hmmm...another stumper...

ITS-san: Gotta take care of family!

Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one): Does the story have to do with grandma and grandchild both being part-time pyromaniacs?

VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!): I second this ?!!!!!!!!!!!-! But I guess VMS-sama is quite powerful and smart in her own way...

and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything): I'd say some sorta god(dess) complex, but that can't be

*GASPS*

OMG!!!!! Bella-sama just sighed!!!! @o@

THAT MUST MEAN SHE HATES OUR COLLABORATIVE PIC!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!! ;^0^;

*C-Chan disintegrates into dust and blows off into the wind*

I should have elaborated, that was a dreamy sigh.

*dreamy sigh*

if you ever do need help coloring/shading one of your sketches,... I'm more than eager too. ^>^

Me too! It would be quite interesting vectorzing one of Siya's works...

[C-Chan]

Oooooh, pretty!

The hair in the shape of cat ears is a good call (I did something like this with Ultrix-tan, were instead of horns she had a couple of curls). The kimono is gorgeous, (and may I suggest some kind of butterfly pattern?). Overall she's sexy without being trashy....

But...what's up with all the hawt BSD-tans?

Heck, you haven't seen the mother yet, have you? `v'

*cat growl*

Although the current OpenBSD-tan design still lacks a little moe,... more moe is required until we can say with absolute certaint, that ALL BSD-tans are hawt.  (Although I reckon she'd be a hit among the Goth/Punk crowd).  ^___^

I added some yellow highlights to her hair:

Okay, it's better....  ^__^
Certainly as good as it'll get without disrupting the realism.  ^.^

I'm more into the idea that hair can be made to glow in the dark, and produce it's own combustion.  ^____^'

Funny you should mention painting, as I used methods for painting flames in photoshop for the fire she's holding. I just...adjusted them for a vector program

That's something I'd love to learn myself.  ^___^

*bows and grovels before Bella*

SENSEI!!!!  ;^0^;

Hannibal Lecter and FreeBSD-tan both, eh?

Oh snap, hadn't realized that connection... ^v^;

*Slackware-chan hopefully looks for her name*
*Not there? What the fsck!?* (<This is how Unix-likes curse, BTW)
*runs outta thread crying*

Nope, she's not on there by a mile.  But she is kinda like her court jester.  `v'

Linux-sama: As you've said before, the two are quite alike and share similar stories. Except Linux-sama never had corporate masters to impede her, or a war to mess up her family -__-

Correct.  ^^
Interesting to note that they were once mortal enemies, now best of friends.  ^^

*pulls out handkerchief*

Amiga-san: This one really stumps me, since Miggy and Unix-sama are...like..polar opposites x10...but I can guess there's something about her kindness and selflessness Unix-sama admires...?

Correct.  Not unlike said "purity" I mentioned before.  Besides which, Miggy-chan is also extraordinarily brave, and first approached UNIX-sama in such a familiar manner that in other instances would be considered blasphemous.  As if that weren't enough, both their experiences during the OS War era were not all that dissimilar.

And as if that weren't enough, UNIX-sama is well aware of how kindly Miggy-chan treated AMIX-tan.

And as if that weren't enough,... there's also something special about Miggy-chan that piques UNIX-sama's curiosity.  ^.^

C-One: Cause C-One can be used to pacify Slackware-chan, of course!

Exactly.  ^.^
But yeah, the decoy part is a great asset to someone of her strategic disposition.

EXEC-san: Hmmm...another stumper...

WHAAA?!!  But she's the easiest.  ^___^
Consider that EXEC-sama is perhaps one of THE OLDEST LIVING OS-tans in existence, and is perhaps the only person alive who can rightfully call the goddess UNIX-ta--  *quickly catches self*  @__@

....

<___<

>___>

.....

*writes it down and flashes "UNIX-tan/UNIX-chan" at Bella before burning the evidence*

Even UNIX-sama feels obliged to respect her elders, and besides without CTSS-san as a grandmother figure, EXEC-sama is the closest she'll get to one.

ITS-san: Gotta take care of family!

Correct.  ^^

Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one): Does the story have to do with grandma and grandchild both being part-time pyromaniacs?

But of course.  ^.^

Fufu... nah, but seriously, UNIX-sama does miss Plan9-tan even though neither will ever admit to that, so Inferno-chan is kind of like that missing conduit that would hopefully bring the two together one day.  Unfortunately, Inferno-tan is pumped full of poison about her grandmother, so while she might've been curious about her grandmother as a child, she probably inherits a certain level of venom as she grows older.  

VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!): I second this ?!!!!!!!!!!!-! But I guess VMS-sama is quite powerful and smart in her own way...

Both are Old Skool girls, so you can imagine they sit down and chat during battle interludes, not unlike American Civil War generals.  They respect eachother's strengths,... just not their notion of whose boundaries lie where.  ^___^;

I'd say some sorta god(dess) complex, but that can't be

]

Naaaaaaaaaaaah,... I'm sure overwhelming another OS-tan in terms of size, strength, age, intellect and power -- by a magnitude of hundreds -- is just a trivial thing.  ^_____^;

I should have elaborated, that was a dreamy sigh.

*dreamy sigh*

Too late,... now you have to clean up after me.  `v'

[Bella]

Although the current OpenBSD-tan design still lacks a little moe,... more moe is required until we can say with absolute certaint, that ALL BSD-tans are hawt. (Although I reckon she'd be a hit among the Goth/Punk crowd). ^___^

I always thought OpenBSD-tan was quite interesting, moe or not

An interesting note, the artist who designed OpenBSD-tan does mostly comic book-style artwork.

Okay, it's better.... ^__^
Certainly as good as it'll get without disrupting the realism. ^.^

I'm more into the idea that hair can be made to glow in the dark, and produce it's own combustion. ^____^'

It's not so much realism I don't want to disrupt....I just didn't want it to get too...busy...

We gotta remember, these are less-is-more hugging, worse-is-better loving Unixes we're dealing with

That's something I'd love to learn myself. ^___^

*bows and grovels before Bella*

SENSEI!!!! ;^0^;

Maybe I'll open the sauce and you can have a look for yourself

But the flames were done mostly with the freehand tool; it was just a matter of blurring to the right effect...

Nope, she's not on there by a mile. But she is kinda like her court jester. `v'

*Slackware-chan perks up*
*Jester? Me?*
*Oh....well...I guess....everyone needs some comedy!*
*walks away proudly*

Correct. ^^
Interesting to note that they were once mortal enemies, now best of friends. ^^

*pulls out handkerchief*

Awww, I love a story like that

That said, I wouldn't hold out to see Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up O__O

Correct. Not unlike said "purity" I mentioned before. Besides which, Miggy-chan is also extraordinarily brave, and first approached UNIX-sama in such a familiar manner that in other instances would be considered blasphemous. As if that weren't enough, both their experiences during the OS War era were not all that dissimilar.

And as if that weren't enough, UNIX-sama is well aware of how kindly Miggy-chan treated AMIX-tan.

And as if that weren't enough,... there's also something special about Miggy-chan that piques UNIX-sama's curiosity. ^.^

So it goes deeper than just liking Amiga-san's personality. But I totally forgot about her and AMIX-tan. As for that special quality of Miggy...what isn't special about her?

*dreamy sigh*

WHAAA?!! But she's the easiest. ^___^
Consider that EXEC-sama is perhaps one of THE OLDEST LIVING OS-tans in existence, and is perhaps the only person alive who can rightfully call the goddess UNIX-ta-- *quickly catches self* @__@

....

<___<

>___>

.....

*writes it down and flashes "UNIX-tan/UNIX-chan" at Bella before burning the evidence*

Even UNIX-sama feels obliged to respect her elders, and besides without CTSS-san as a grandmother figure, EXEC-sama is the closest she'll get to one.

Hey, if ya wanna go even more blasphemous...UNICS-chan! XD

And respect for her elders!? Oh wow! The many sides of Unix-sama's personalty I failed to notice though all the...book-throwing...!

But of course. ^.^

Fufu... nah, but seriously, UNIX-sama does miss Plan9-tan even though neither will ever admit to that, so Inferno-chan is kind of like that missing conduit that would hopefully bring the two together one day. Unfortunately, Inferno-tan is pumped full of poison about her grandmother, so while she might've been curious about her grandmother as a child, she probably inherits a certain level of venom as she grows older.

Awww :..(

Added after a bit:

Hey, I was just doing a bit of ancient OS research...I've come up with some neat new ideas for CTSS-sama, and I may be close to designing a DTSS-tan!

First off, here's a site for the DTSS Reborn project, which I guess made an emulator of DTSS to run on modern OSs, as well as info on the historic system.

http://www.dtss.org/index.php

And an interesting article circa 1968:

http://www.dtss.org/sciencearticle/pages/page02.html

What I know about DTSS:
-DTSS was born at Dartmouth College on born at 4:00 a.m., on May 1, 1963, in my native NH! So I guess a DTSS-tan would have to have some sly NH references that only I and a few other NH'ites would get XD

-DTSS was designed and maintained largely by students at the college, many with little or no programming experience; 80% of the students could use the system. So I think DTSS-tan would be a very friendly, teacher-like figure; not adverse to socializing with "laymen".

-DTSS ran on two GE computers separately, a strange and ingenious concept; one to execute programs, and one to handle communications. Somehow I wonder if a potential DTSS-tan should, it fact, be two separate characters; sisters whom cannot live without each other.

-DTSS has had some strange incidents (which I'm beginning to see is the norm for these oldies); when first started, it crashed every five minutes; it has electrocuted a squirrel; and the cheering of fans at a swimming competition crashed the system that was being used to record the results.

-DTSS was shut down on Dec. 31, 1999, and a year later a project to rewrite DTSS as an emulator was started. In 2004 the project succeeded in making an emulator for Mac and Windows.

Like I said before, I don't know if DTSS-tan would be better off as a single character, or as two that have some sort of strange psychic link to one another, and cannot exist separated (hey, like Marc and Siya!). Or, you could look at it like one sister's the mistress, the other a servant (as DTSS used machines with the rather unfortunate title of "master" and "slave").  I also wonder about "DTSS reborn", as it is not an OS as much as it's an emulator of the system. @___@

Maybe it'll make more sense in the light of day...

*falls asleep*

[Bella]

Oh, here's some of my updated preconcepts for CTSS-sama and WAITS-san:



I have given CTSS-sama an eastern Asian flare; if you have followed me to this point, I'll explain my rational...

I found this delightful little page, featuring programs made for CTSS rewritten as Java applets for our computers to read (or....something like that)

http://www.multicians.org/thvv/tvvjava.html?1

Well, I saw one of the programs was a computerized version of...the I Ching (the Book of Changes, a fortune telling text). I though, what the hell, CTSS-san's design isn't all that distinct, why not make her dress a bit Chinese?

"Say" is also quite funny; I suppose stuff like this would have been used by CTSS-san to cheer up Multics-chan (trust me, she would have needed it -__-)



WAIT-tan! I tried to make her look a little more hippie-ish and Bohemian....

[Aurora Borealis]

I'm not sure whether DTSS-tan should be one or two people or such but she sure would be a really interesting character!

CTSS-tan and WAITS-tan are both so delightfully elegant!

I especially like WAITS-tan because she's a hippie and a rebel who challenged the norms of her time!

[C-Chan]

OMG!!!!!!!!  @V@

Well,... I'm afraid to say I've all but expended my energy for the day.... so,...... if you'll permit me.......

*C-chan swoons at, among many things, CTSS-sama's dress*

*then turns into a symbolic object*

[Bella]

I'm feeling awful conjectury...I might try to figure out a bit of Multics-sama's pre-70s backstory...

I won't lie. This is uncharted territory of epic sap proportions; and honestly, I'd rather not re-create the Great Sap Incident of 1919.

But I think there's more to Multics-sama's confident, strong personality than what meets the eye; as one could argue, the biggest threat ever posed to Multics-sama was actually herself; the very complexity that was her nature (somehow) nearly did her on many occasions, not even counting how she, quite directly, inspired the creation of Unix-sama.

This page details Multics history from 1962 to 2000 (or in this case, the late 60/early 70s period)
http://www.multicians.org/history.html#tag2

But let us look at some events from early Multics history:

-Project MAC was started in the early 60s; I suppose Multics existed in theory by the mid 60s, but wasn't self supporting until 67/68.

I really don't know when Multics-sama's birthday would be, then; but at her youngest age, I envision her as a preteen...

-One could argue Multics directly caused Unix to be made; it is not just system similarities that make the two OSs "related".

From what I gather, Bell Labs was so disgusted with where Multics was going (as in, the design growing too complicated and not working well), that they withdrew from the project. Ritche, Thomson, McIlroy and Ossanna were some of the people most involved in Multics, and they were also the group most involved with Unix. And as we all know, Unix had nary an iota of complexity when compared to its "mother".

If this isn't OS-tan sap potential, I don't know what is; but it's an interesting note, neither party (Multics or Unix-sama) may fully realize this.

-Some time in 68/69, Multics came close to being canceled, due to the project becoming too complicated, management costs, etc. ARPA suggested they kill the project. Eventually, even the group developing Multics agreed; it was one person, whom himself was going to try to sway the project toward cancellation, that started to see what knowledge would be lost if Multics was canceled (you can read the entire story, "2.3. Management", in that link I posted.

I'm supposing around this time, some pretty terrible psychological (and/or physical) problems befell Multics-sama. What, I don't even venture to guess; only that she at some point came within an inch of her life. What her mindset was like at this time, and how (or if) she fully recovered, I'm unsure about...

I have a few more ideas, but I don't want to cause a Sap-tastrophy. Or give C-Chan carpel tunnel syndrome from replying to all my babbling.

Uh...oh...

SAP THREAT LEVEL: ELEVATED

Melodramatic situations may be eminent

[C-Chan]

Okay,...

This is it.....

The moment of truth!!!  ^0^

I always thought OpenBSD-tan was quite interesting, moe or not

An interesting note, the artist who designed OpenBSD-tan does mostly comic book-style artwork.

Don't get me wrong,... the drawing is good.  
It's just not in the style that I like.

In fairness though,....

Except for anything with Giganta in it, I was never into comic books either.  ^^;
I'd swear even the characters' eyebrows are drawn with massive bulging muscles.  ;

I just didn't want it to get too...busy...

We gotta remember, these are less-is-more hugging, worse-is-better loving Unixes we're dealing with

BAAAH!!! those are just the old skool, stuffy old Unices!  
The day belongs to the new, hip, young generation of FOSS conscious *Nix-tans who know how to spice things up!  They're flaming!  (and in Inferno-chan's case, quite literally)

Maybe I'll open the sauce and you can have a look for yourself

Well as far as I can tell, I'll see it anyway.  Gotta add those BSDs, no?  ^___^
[after Operation Bella Boost ends and all...]

That said, I wouldn't hold out to see Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up O__O

I had a story idea where they did, but about 20 years into the future.  A lot of very familiar faces would be leading lives in the quiet comfort of a more established Binteji Renmei.  

So it goes deeper than just liking Amiga-san's personality. But I totally forgot about her and AMIX-tan.

Yeah, I don't have much of an idea of how I want to make AMIX-tan.  All I figure is that she arrives at Commodore to serve as a very snobbish mediator, but is quickly won over by the young Miggy-chan's personality.  From then on until the end of her life, AMIX-tans serves as a very close friend to her.

As for that special quality of Miggy...what isn't special about her?

I want to hint that UNIX-sama has a special way of, not necessarily seeing the future, but envisioning possible outcomes -- a very sophisticated form of Foresight that helps with her razor-sharp decision-making.  She admires Miggy as a person, but is impressed by her latent magical power purposely locked by a Proprietary Barrier.  

If it were to be released by a powerful-enough Open Sourcery spell,....

....

...UNIX-sama won't say,.... but apparently something beautiful will happen.  ^_________^

Hey, if ya wanna go even more blasphemous...UNICS-chan! XD

Oh, you're so dead.  TvT

*hides in bomb shelter, waiting for the ghost Bella-sama to be turned into a ghost-of-a-ghost*

And respect for her elders!? Oh wow! The many sides of Unix-sama's personalty I failed to notice though all the...book-throwing...!

Well okay,.... respect for elders, except for the ones who were jerks (looks at GECOS-sama).  ^_________^'
Don't get me wrong,... UNIX-sama is still UNIX-sama....

But in the case of EXEC-sama, she's not only very kind, but also very harmless.  UNIX-sama simply wouldn't get anything out of treating them badly, so why expend the energy doing so when there are so many distraught children and grandchildren to punish?  

Awww :..(

Oh no, I told you the UserSpace Gang was not ENTIRELY devoid of sap, now.  ^^;

Hey, I was just doing a bit of ancient OS research...I've come up with some neat new ideas for CTSS-sama, and I may be close to designing a DTSS-tan!

Aaaa!  An old associate of CTSS-sama.  ^___^
I tell you, you find the neatest old OSes....  -v-

What I know about DTSS:
-DTSS was born at Dartmouth College on born at 4:00 a.m., on May 1, 1963, in my native NH! So I guess a DTSS-tan would have to have some sly NH references that only I and a few other NH'ites would get XD

OMG.  ^___^'
Oh yeah,... I can see DTSS-sama bringing out the Granite State pride in ya.  ^v^

....

I take it she wouldn't like Vermont either?  

-DTSS was designed and maintained largely by students at the college, many with little or no programming experience; 80% of the students could use the system. So I think DTSS-tan would be a very friendly, teacher-like figure; not adverse to socializing with "laymen".

Hmmm,.... a very prehistoric form of Open Source?  Not really, but I assume that at least among the students, they had to communicate openly with one another to coordinate the development.

-DTSS has had some strange incidents (which I'm beginning to see is the norm for these oldies);

I harken back to the day of the old news reels showing [mostly unsuccessful] attempts at human-powered flying machines.  ^.^;

when first started, it crashed every five minutes;

A prehistoric Hacchan?  ^v^;

it has electrocuted a squirrel;

Amiga-sama would certainly freak by that.  @v@'

and the cheering of fans at a swimming competition crashed the system that was being used to record the results.

I take it DTSS-sama would startle easily.  ^.^

-DTSS was shut down on Dec. 31, 1999, and a year later a project to rewrite DTSS as an emulator was started. In 2004 the project succeeded in making an emulator for Mac and Windows.

So she lives on in a way, although perhaps nowhere near as powerful as she once may have been.  ^___^
That's a very sweet tail,... I wonder if she'd make a good vintage-tan....

Like I said before, I don't know if DTSS-tan would be better off as a single character, or as two that have some sort of strange psychic link to one another, and cannot exist separated (hey, like Marc and Siya!). Or, you could look at it like one sister's the mistress, the other a servant (as DTSS used machines with the rather unfortunate title of "master" and "slave"). I also wonder about "DTSS reborn", as it is not an OS as much as it's an emulator of the system. @___@

If only because of that real-life naming scheme, I'd probably opt for the mistress/servant distinction.  However, for extra sap, you can make modern-day DTSS-tan as just the Mistress (or at least a shadow of her former self).

And,..... I'm outta time....  ^^;

But hey, at least I don't have to turn into an umbrella.  ^.^

We'll pick this up tomorrow,... I still need my healthy dose of NH sap.  ^___^

[C-Chan]

Oh, here's some of my updated preconcepts for CTSS-sama and WAITS-san:

I have given CTSS-sama an eastern Asian flare; if you have followed me to this point, I'll explain my rational...

I found this delightful little page, featuring programs made for CTSS rewritten as Java applets for our computers to read (or....something like that)

http://www.multicians.org/thvv/tvvjava.html?1

Well, I saw one of the programs was a computerized version of...the I Ching (the Book of Changes, a fortune telling text). I though, what the hell, CTSS-san's design isn't all that distinct, why not make her dress a bit Chinese?

"Say" is also quite funny; I suppose stuff like this would have been used by CTSS-san to cheer up Multics-chan (trust me, she would have needed it -__-)

I think that's a wonderful idea!  Bearing in mind that Chinese culture stretches back a few thousand years, it'd be fitting for someone of her antiquity to wear somethign like that.  It gives her more of an ancient "goddess" like look.  ^__^

I must say, though, that CTSS-sama was born several decades before her time.  Her kindness seems wasted on a generation of petty aristocracy.  -v-

WAIT-tan! I tried to make her look a little more hippie-ish and Bohemian....

Oooh,... the hair loses some of that 60's flair that I liked, but overall not bad.  I think this could work for our Beloved Bohemian.  ^^

Still.....

...

*laments loss of PCLOS Gnu Ranch and corresponding inhabitants*  ;^0^;

But I think there's more to Multics-sama's confident, strong personality than what meets the eye; as one could argue, the biggest threat ever posed to Multics-sama was actually herself; the very complexity that was her nature (somehow) nearly did her on many occasions, not even counting how she, quite directly, inspired the creation of Unix-sama.

It wouldn't be the first or last time that someone's arrogance became his/her undoing.  Sometimes when you're on the top of the food chain, you forget to check the writing on the wall every once in a while.  ^^;

I would think that much of the success behind UNIX and its more simplistic approach stems from the fact that most businesses really don't need anything fancy.  MULTICS insisted that businesses wanted BMWs, when all they really needed were 70's Volkswagen Beetles.  UNIX-sama may have been inferior, but as long as the price was right and the job was done....  ^___^

This page details Multics history from 1962 to 2000 (or in this case, the late 60/early 70s period)
http://www.multicians.org/history.html#tag2

Dear GAWDS, I have so much reading to catch up to, it's not even funny.  T____________T;

WAH!  Operation Bella Boost is gonna take a major hit because of it.  ^^;

-Project MAC was started in the early 60s; I suppose Multics existed in theory by the mid 60s, but wasn't self supporting until 67/68.

When those cases happen, I usually take it as MULTICS being a child in the mid-60's, and a full adult once she becomes self-supporting.  I planned to do the same with 3.1-sama, who's still a child "in development" prior to 1990.

I really don't know when Multics-sama's birthday would be, then; but at her youngest age, I envision her as a preteen...

Given she was born complex, that sounds 'bout right.  ^^

-One could argue Multics directly caused Unix to be made; it is not just system similarities that make the two OSs "related".

From what I gather, Bell Labs was so disgusted with where Multics was going (as in, the design growing too complicated and not working well), that they withdrew from the project. Ritche, Thomson, McIlroy and Ossanna were some of the people most involved in Multics, and they were also the group most involved with Unix. And as we all know, Unix had nary an iota of complexity when compared to its "mother".

Funny how I automatically see a striking parallel with UNIX-sama and Plan 9-san.  Guess it's true what they say that history is bound to repeat itself.  ^^;

-Some time in 68/69, Multics came close to being canceled, due to the project becoming too complicated, management costs, etc. ARPA suggested they kill the project. Eventually, even the group developing Multics agreed; it was one person, whom himself was going to try to sway the project toward cancellation, that started to see what knowledge would be lost if Multics was canceled (you can read the entire story, "2.3. Management", in that link I posted.

I'm supposing around this time, some pretty terrible psychological (and/or physical) problems befell Multics-sama. What, I don't even venture to guess; only that she at some point came within an inch of her life. What her mindset was like at this time, and how (or if) she fully recovered, I'm unsure about...

Well true to the aristocratic society of the time, I'm sure she would've secluded herself from public view to spare herself the shame of being seen in that state.  But in her most vulnerable moments, surely she would've sought the presence of CTSS-sama at least, to talk in private about... this and that.

Considering that UNICS was being developed/released at around this time, it'd be of extra sappage to conjecture that perhaps she recovered after hearing news of her daughter.  I mean sappage because much of the hardship she puts on the young girl may have been, in a small unconscous part, to allow her daughter to grow stronger.  In the end she gets more than she bargains for of course -- she makes UNIX-sama powerful, at the cost of forfeiting her power and her only chance of becoming a true mother. But perhaps this was a fair trade for her, given her previous close encounter with death which would have deprived her of any viable legacy.

I have a few more ideas, but I don't want to cause a Sap-tastrophy. Or give C-Chan carpel tunnel syndrome from replying to all my babbling.

Pigs don't get Carpel Tunnel.  However, all this typing DOES tenderize my forearms, which invites salivation from all kinds of evil people intending to cook me.  TvT

SAP THREAT LEVEL: ELEVATED

Melodramatic situations may be eminent

Honestly, though, it doesn't really seem THAT sappy yet.... TvT
Come on,... crank up the maple..... I can take it.  ^.^

[Bella]

BAAAH!!! those are just the old skool, stuffy old Unices!
The day belongs to the new, hip, young generation of FOSS conscious *Nix-tans who know how to spice things up! They're flaming! (and in Inferno-chan's case, quite literally)

....except for Plan9 and Slackware

(two OSs which...supposedly, for the latter...follow the Worse is Better approach)

Well as far as I can tell, I'll see it anyway. Gotta add those BSDs, no? ^___^
[after Operation Bella Boost ends and all...]

Oh, yeah!

I had a story idea where they did, but about 20 years into the future. A lot of very familiar faces would be leading lives in the quiet comfort of a more established Binteji Renmei.

Oh, I can see that meeting...

95: Hey, so I tried to wipe out your entire people, and succeeded in destroying most of your culture, but that's don't mean we can't be friends!

Mac: Well, I led a resurgence that made your kin second-class from a consumer viewpoint, so, sounds fair to me!

But, the idea of coming up with future stories is...kinda interesting...! I'll admit I've had thoughts of what might happen...

*imagines XP-tan after she gets shamelessly booted from the family by ungrateful newcomers*

*A brief stint with the A$C, hangin' with the open source types and befriending their program-tans, maybe running off to Grandma for some help....*

*imagination runs wild @___@*

I want to hint that UNIX-sama has a special way of, not necessarily seeing the future, but envisioning possible outcomes -- a very sophisticated form of Foresight that helps with her razor-sharp decision-making. She admires Miggy as a person, but is impressed by her latent magical power purposely locked by a Proprietary Barrier.

If it were to be released by a powerful-enough Open Sourcery spell,....

....

...UNIX-sama won't say,.... but apparently something beautiful will happen. ^_________^

Foresight! Shape-shifting! Speaking foreign tongues! The human emotion called "kindness"! What power does the Goddess not possess!

But that's gonna have to be one heck of an Open Sourcery spell -__-

Oh, you're so dead. TvT

*hides in bomb shelter, waiting for the ghost Bella-sama to be turned into a ghost-of-a-ghost*

Nah, Plan 9-sama was impressed so much by my depiction of her, she necromanced me back into the world of the living

*notices I'm dead...again...*

Uh...oh.....

Well okay,.... respect for elders, except for the ones who were jerks (looks at GECOS-sama). ^_________^'
Don't get me wrong,... UNIX-sama is still UNIX-sama....

Now, now, GECOS-sama may have hated Multics-sama, meddled in family affairs, etc....but in her defense, she was simply trying to secure her power...or whatever...

OMG. ^___^'
Oh yeah,... I can see DTSS-sama bringing out the Granite State pride in ya. ^v^

....

I take it she wouldn't like Vermont either?

Nope

Hmmm,.... a very prehistoric form of Open Source? Not really, but I assume that at least among the students, they had to communicate openly with one another to coordinate the development.

Perhaps...but I think Unix-sama is much more likely. I hear tell that the Unix Source Code was bounced all over hell and creation (as a means of studying the system, as the source was often the only  type of "documentation") until the mid 70's when AT&T put their foot down. Even then people continued to photocopy the book containing the code...

Amiga-sama would certainly freak by that. @v@'

I take it DTSS-sama would startle easily. ^.^

Just what I thought!

If only because of that real-life naming scheme, I'd probably opt for the mistress/servant distinction. However, for extra sap, you can make modern-day DTSS-tan as just the Mistress (or at least a shadow of her former self).

I've been leaning that way, too. I also think that Mistress DTSS-sama may not be able to communicate too well, relying on her servant to speak for her (as one machine did the processing, and the other was used for communication)...

I think that's a wonderful idea! Bearing in mind that Chinese culture stretches back a few thousand years, it'd be fitting for someone of her antiquity to wear somethign like that. It gives her more of an ancient "goddess" like look. ^__^

I must say, though, that CTSS-sama was born several decades before her time. Her kindness seems wasted on a generation of petty aristocracy. -v-

I suppose...but there was quite a group fighting to keep the MIT CTSS machines running...

It wouldn't be the first or last time that someone's arrogance became his/her undoing. Sometimes when you're on the top of the food chain, you forget to check the writing on the wall every once in a while. ^^;

I would think that much of the success behind UNIX and its more simplistic approach stems from the fact that most businesses really don't need anything fancy. MULTICS insisted that businesses wanted BMWs, when all they really needed were 70's Volkswagen Beetles. UNIX-sama may have been inferior, but as long as the price was right and the job was done.... ^___^

That's so funny! I've often compared Unix and Multics to an army Jeep and a Rolls Royce XD

Which one do you think would be more useful?

When those cases happen, I usually take it as MULTICS being a child in the mid-60's, and a full adult once she becomes self-supporting. I planned to do the same with 3.1-sama, who's still a child "in development" prior to 1990.

Yeah, most timelines date Multics to 65...but it wasn't quite in working order until 68.

Given she was born complex, that sounds 'bout right. ^^

Okay...cause somehow, I can't imagine her as a helpless child o__O

Well true to the aristocratic society of the time, I'm sure she would've secluded herself from public view to spare herself the shame of being seen in that state. But in her most vulnerable moments, surely she would've sought the presence of CTSS-sama at least, to talk in private about... this and that.

Oh yes, I'm sure CTSS-sama would have been the only one who never gave up on Multics-sama. I'm sure she would have seen Multics-sama as the daughter she never had, and would have treated her as such. I see them as having a very close relationship for the day.

Considering that UNICS was being developed/released at around this time, it'd be of extra sappage to conjecture that perhaps she recovered after hearing news of her daughter. I mean sappage because much of the hardship she puts on the young girl may have been, in a small unconscous part, to allow her daughter to grow stronger. In the end she gets more than she bargains for of course -- she makes UNIX-sama powerful, at the cost of forfeiting her power and her only chance of becoming a true mother. But perhaps this was a fair trade for her, given her previous close encounter with death which would have deprived her of any viable legacy.

That could very well be! I tell you, the early life of Multics-sama is quite complicated and many-sided, hey, much like the system itself. And it doesn't help how tightly entangled the saga of Unix-sama coincides with Multics-sama's.

Although it would have been undoubtedly shocking for Multics-sama (and Unix-sama, for that matter), to see each other; as, alike as they may be, they had been designed and trained in ways that made them polar opposites. Sure, Unix-sama may carry a complex about being quite plain compared to her mother, but who's to say Multics-sama didn't feel some self-hatred? All that complexity that essentially made her....her....turned out to be terrible liability. And maybe she had just a grain of envy for daughter, who lived unfettered by such shackles...at least until their encounter, when Multics-sama shed some of that power and it was transfered to Unix-sama.

Not too long ago I would have thought Multics-sama was an arrogant aristocrat, but it seems life was not so easy for her and for a long while she was shunned herself by the technical community.

In short, almost from birth Multics-sama was made to carry responsibilities she couldn't handle; far too many grandiose hopes and promises were made about her, and she felt obligated to fulfill these at the cost of her heath, and almost her life. I suppose, there came a point when she could comfortably carry out her duties, but it was not so long afterward that Unix-sama proved she could do so better.

SAP THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

High risk of Sap; ready your pancakes, and Kleenexes

Oh, and I should also mention, Yesterday I had a bizarre encounter with the 70s! With RSTS, to be exact:

http://www.woffordwitch.com/default.asp

Apparently, RSTS/E is available for non-commercial use via Telnet. A similar program exists with *schoolgirlish squeal* VMS!!!

At this point, you may be wondering what good can be gained by remotely connecting with an OS, using a command line interface that makes a GUI hugger like I more than a bit intimidated. I dunno, but I guess it's neat to say you've communicated with an historic OS...

Even if you don't get far past the "PLEASE SAY HELLO" prompt XD

*Discos-out to go stalk VMS...*