Linux

[IanDanKilmaster]

*cackles*  ^V^

Unless you want the newest version of KDE and Gnome, nearly all distros can function at some level with hardware as dated as 486's.  ^____^'

I really wouldn't know, but wouldn't Xfce work since it's supposedly a lighter desktop environment? FYI, I just recently installed KDE, Xfce, and Enlightenment for the hell of it, but is there any way I can have each one operating separate menus?  While there are a few programs I wouldn't mind running outside of their native environments (i.e. Amarok), it's kind of a bother to have such junky looking menus with programs that don't work well outside of their native environments (i.e. Kaffeine).  I have no idea if this can actually be done, but if there is any way please let me know.

Oh yeah, in the past two weeks I've burned and tested four Live CDs, which is surprisingly pretty damn fun.

[Kami-Tux]

@Bella: I would recommend to use fvwm2 on old PCs and yeah, use a slim distro (NOT OpenSuSE!!!!). Maybe you should try Xubuntu...

@IanDan: You can edit the respective configurations with the menueditors or in ~/.enlightenment/

BTW: I too am a distroholic.

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@Bella: You rock so hard! You are great!

[IanDanKilmaster]

@IanDan: You can edit the respective configurations with the menueditors or in ~/.enlightenment/

BTW: I too am a distroholic.

Good, I was hoping that would work... I didn't want to use the menu editor in one and have the changes be universal  ;026 , but this is good news.

Yeah, the only downside to my addiction is that I'm running a 30+GB desktop, so I can't afford to get too carried away, lol, but I'm good with my current setup, even w/out curbing my piracy.

[C-Chan]

Oh shoot!  I really must be losing my mind if I forgot to list Xubuntu....  ^___^'

She was the first Linux system I liked, so how could it have slipped?  O__o

Yeah, Xubuntu-chan can easily handle your 1998 hardware -- plus you get to see a cute hamster running a spin wheel on startup.  ^.^

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Yeah, the only downside to my addiction is that I'm running a 30+GB desktop, so I can't afford to get too carried away, lol, but I'm good with my current setup, even w/out curbing my piracy.

My ex-Xubuntu system (now eComStation) are relegated to a paltry 8GB system -- but even for them, that's a lot of space.  ^__^

Something like OpenSUSE or Sabayon Linux, though, probably won't be worth their salt with just that amount of space (although I guess you can run them as LiveCDs to get around that, but still.....  ^^)

[IanDanKilmaster]

While I was ushering a play at my university Friday, I discovered that one of my fellow ushers was also a fellow Ubuntu user (William who is also a fellow newbie).  He was talking to his friend, Will, who was selling tickets, about a computer.  Will felt his computer was showing it's age, and William was talking to him about switching OSes.  Anyway, the conversation went pretty well and I think William even offered him a Live CD.  The only problem was William didn't know if there was an alternative to iTunes on Linux.  Anyway, it appears there may be yet another convert to the Linux cult... err... I mean OS (0_<).

[quzak]

Alot of people have suggested Ubuntu.  New version comes out soon.

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Also of note, Slackware is decent as well.

[Silentbob]

Yeah, 7.04 is due in a few days, I'll be running that on my new rig which I'm building next week.  ^_^

[C-Chan]

The only problem was William didn't know if there was an alternative to iTunes on Linux.

Fufu... I'm assuming Amarok is not very well-advertised, is it.  ^^'
Regardless, you could probably still get iTunes to work via Wine or Crossover,... at least for now anyway.  ^^'

Also of note, Slackware is decent as well.

That's more like a pro's distros though, isn't it?  ^^
Has a very unique OS-tan, though.  -v-

Yeah, 7.04 is due in a few days, I'll be running that on my new rig which I'm building next week.

First in line for the Feisty Fawn right here!!!!!!  ^V^
[in lieu of no Tablet Mac, I have to channel my love and money somewhere....  -v-)

BTW, I do have a question directed to maybe OH GREAT PENGUIN GOD, or perhaps someone who's had a hand in OSS......

Using a General Public License for any software in the works (even if it's just graphics and pictures at this point) is easy, is it not?  '__'

The /C-chan has been giving some thought to expanding his educational mission in a new and exciting way somehow.  ^__^

[IanDanKilmaster]

The only problem was William didn't know if there was an alternative to iTunes on Linux.

Fufu... I'm assuming Amarok is not very well-advertised, is it.  ^^'
Regardless, you could probably still get iTunes to work via Wine or Crossover,... at least for now anyway.  ^^'

The first thing that came to my mind was Songbird, because I really don't know that much about iTunes (forced by QT to install it, never used it) and didn't know of any programs approximate to it's features.  I thought of Songbird because I've heard touted as an alternative to iTunes.  My roommate and I had a discussion about it, and he'd mentioned that Will might need iTunes due to it's functionality with the iPod.

So it's now become even more apparent to me how technologically-challenged I am because I really didn't think the iPod was anything more than a really popular mp3 player.  Okay, I'm a little more informed now and have discovered a little more about the iPod and how it works... and how it can work with Linux.  I know that there are probably some other alternatives that I'm missing, but I've discovered that you can install iPodLinux to your iPod to get to run on Linux.  Problem is installing it on newer versions of the iPod may result in limited functionality.

On a non-Linux note, I've been trying to think of a freeware antivirus program with real-time protection for my Windows-using relatives.  I thought Alwil Avast! would be great, but getting a registration key requires filling out a form that includes not only leaving one's e-mail but personal address as well.  When I was still using Windows, I used Avira AntiVir, but that was because I read a review comparing anti-virus software and it was only recommended over Avast! for computers with less RAM (Avast! was recommended as generally favorable for computers with more RAM).  Anyway, I figured since the people that generally post in this thread are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to freeware that I'd ask if anyone knew what was the best free anti-virus software with real-time protection.

[Bella]

On a non-Linux note, I've been trying to think of a freeware antivirus program with real-time protection for my Windows-using relatives. I thought Alwil Avast! would be great, but getting a registration key requires filling out a form that includes not only leaving one's e-mail but personal address as well. When I was still using Windows, I used Avira AntiVir, but that was because I read a review comparing anti-virus software and it was only recommended over Avast! for computers with less RAM (Avast! was recommended as generally favorable for computers with more RAM). Anyway, I figured since the people that generally post in this thread are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to freeware that I'd ask if anyone knew what was the best free anti-virus software with real-time protection.

What about AVG?

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

[Kami-Tux]

BTW, I do have a question directed to maybe OH GREAT PENGUIN GOD, or perhaps someone who's had a hand in OSS......

Using a General Public License for any software in the works (even if it's just graphics and pictures at this point) is easy, is it not?  '__'

The /C-chan has been giving some thought to expanding his educational mission in a new and exciting way somehow.  ^__^

You just need to put it into the code and the LICENSE file that the program is GPLed and offer the sourcecode for download. some issues might apply if it needs specially adapted compilers.

[C-Chan]

You just need to put it into the code and the LICENSE file that the program is GPLed and offer the sourcecode for download. some issues might apply if it needs specially adapted compilers.

Eeps... well, in that case I'm nowhere near that point yet.  ^^'
So even if I do have graphics drawn, I probably can't do anything to them until they're compiled into a program.  

Oh well, in any event, thank you Oh Great Penguin God.  ^__^

This will be something I will be interested in pursuing, as I'm planning to pursue a radically different project from OS-tans sooner rather than later.  -v-

On a non-Linux note, I've been trying to think of a freeware antivirus program with real-time protection for my Windows-using relatives. I thought Alwil Avast! would be great, but getting a registration key requires filling out a form that includes not only leaving one's e-mail but personal address as well. When I was still using Windows, I used Avira AntiVir, but that was because I read a review comparing anti-virus software and it was only recommended over Avast! for computers with less RAM (Avast! was recommended as generally favorable for computers with more RAM). Anyway, I figured since the people that generally post in this thread are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to freeware that I'd ask if anyone knew what was the best free anti-virus software with real-time protection.

I guess you can always try Panda antivirus, perhaps..... ^^'

But seriously,... the registration requirement doesn't seem like too much of a price to pay compared to [say] what Norton and Mcafee charge ($50USD + email, personal address, etc....).  If your relative is concerned about privacy issues or spam, consider inputting,............. "dummy" information.  -v-'

Funny how I used to think that AVG and Avast were the same, but guess not.  ^.^

BTW, I'll probably be releasing another Good, Bad and Ugly segment tomorrow!  ^v^

A coworker's personal computer got ravaged by a Win Virus, and I leant her a Knoppix LiveCD to allow her to at least check email and surf the web while her XP gets fixed.  (originally wanted MEPIS, but that's not a LiveCD)
I tried it on my computer and loved how thorough the hardware detection was and how complete the distros is for a LiveCD.

Here's hoping she might decide to settle down with it.
I certainly would use it as my primary rescue CD.  ^.^

[C-Chan]

Oh right,...
Good/Bad/Ugly segment,... almost forgot... ^^'


/C-chan's Weekly Good, Bad and Ugly Moments -- Short Sweet n Sour Version

The Good:  provided coworker with a copy of a Knoppix CD to help use her computer while her XP remained virus-ravaged and unbootable.  Meant as a temporary measure until we could get the XP set up fixed, but....

The Bad:  before she even tried it, she ended up shelling out a HUGE amount of money (almost the cost of a new computer) to get her Windoze running again.  Worst part about it is that she knows she was jipped.  ^^;
Let her keep the LiveCD anyway in case of another emergency,.. which, given the household surfing habits, could be any day now.  -.-'

The Ugly:  I'm uploading Feisty Fawn, but am probably contributing to the shock on the poor K/X/Ubuntu servers.  Bad /C-chan,... no cake for you.  -v-'

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The Quiz:  sorry, temporarily switiching to coin-geek mode.....

If anyone can make out the identity of that large-sized coin in the picture, you will receive an official /C-chan commendation present.  ^__^

[Tsubashi]

Foolish people, when will they learn? Windows Wastes Money!

Anyway, about the coin...
Obviously I'm no specialist, but given that it's in a pile of US coins, and the fact he's facing to the left, I'd guess it to be an Eisenhower Liberty dollar or whatever the official name is.

[C-Chan]

Just Eisenhower Dollar will do....  ^__^

CONGRATULATIONS, TSUBASHI-DONO!!!!!!!

YOU'VE EARNED YOURSELF A FREE WII!!!!!  ^V^



That dollar coin is nice and hefty (exactly twice the size of a Kennedy half dollar), but tt's got nothing on tis predecessor, the Peace Dollar (which is tied with the Morgan Dollar as the best silver dollars ever minted inthe US).  ^.^

Oh, and as far as Windows goes, I prefer to look in a "glass half full"  perspective on these kinds of things.  So it's not that "Windows Wastes Money" on the consumer, but rather "Windows Makes Money" for the overpriced tech support people.  See?  That sounded nice and PR friendly!  I could work at the Ministry of Truth with that kind of rhetoric.  ^.^

Oh, and it case you didn't catch this at Bella's thread:
http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007041901326OPMSPB