Linux

[C-Chan]

I don't see any LAN/DSL jack...I think I once read Windows didn't have that capability until 98SE (I think...?)

No, that would be USB drives probably.  ^__^

Ethernet connectivity has been around since at least the age of the Xerox PARC, and certainly had to be accessible to Windows NT back in the early 90's (given the whole server thing... -v-).  On the other hand, high-speed internet connectivty was not particularly popular in the American consumer market during the mid-to-late 90's (remember AOL?), so computer manufacturers (as you can probably tell from HaPup's cheap-ass BIOS) omitted such things to cut costs.  ^___^

In any event, I think we've reached that point where software solutions have been rendered impossible, and hardware solutions are inevitable.  So even though I won't recommend you splurge too much on HaPup (it pains me to say it, but I guess we can live with just 64 megs of RAM... -v-'), perhaps installing an ethernet card is the least you can do for her to extend her life.  ^___^

With network capabilities, she can go online AND share files with other computers in your home, as well as access the Linux repositories (although Puppy's official respositories are childishly small compared to the *Buntu ones).

But before we go there, how about we get your external HD working, eh?
Have anyone you can borrow a USB stick from?  
If you connect that and THAT doesn't read (which I know it must), then there might be a hardware problem with your computer's USB ports.  -v-'
That I would probably recommend fixing as well, since a computer without USB ports in this day-and-age is like a chicken caesar salad with just chicken.  -.-'

Keep me posted,... that'll be your new priority.  ^__^

Gah! That theme is up and running

FYI, check the 'Post Your Desktop' thread to see my IceWM in action.  The package comes with several themes, including XP and Vista clone packages (and apparently none will impact performance one bit).  Just bear in mind that since you're still running this off RAMDisk, it's probably not recommended you use them yet until we give Puppy (or any other system you'll use) a more permanent home.

Another assignment for you would be to investigate that mysterious 6gig partition on your hard drive.  If it really is empty space, there's no reason you couldn't try installing something on it.  But naturally, before you do, there's still a Hacchan drive to evacuate.  ^___^

(remember, you can remove the floppy after it's done doing the initial boot!)

Okay, most of the people on the site I found them on weren't sure how to use them, either.

The PET file I used on the 'Post your Desktop' thread already came with new icons for ROX, so wherever it installed them to was probably the proper place.

OR it might've overwritten the original icons in the system....

(although good riddance, since the original icons were ugly anyway)  ^^'

It's the least I can do for all the help, especially with a Linux DAU like me  Something like Hacchan vs. Puppy-chan?

Well Puppy's too friendly to compete against' Hacchan.  I'd imagine something more like Puppy-chan bursting with energy, and trying to get a lazy, lethargic, television-watching Hacchan off the couch.  (Since Puppy's younger and smaller, it'd make it even more humorous....  ^___^)

Now that the swap partition is made, I could use other lightweight, 32-bit liveCDs? Cause I'd love giving SAM Linux a try sometime (as long as it'd be fairly speedy...)

Yep, although I should probably disclaim that Puppy is tailored-made to be particularly fast, whereas SAM Linux is geared towards being more modern.  So if there is a speed difference, bear in mind it won't be as bad as when it's actually installed (since it won't have to decompress any large programs on the fly).  Remember there's also other distros like Zenwalk and Xubuntu, and even various different flavors of Puppy, such as GrafPup (for graphic artists) or ChubbyPup (which includes gobs of additional programs, including even some KDE ones!).  

I'm not as enthusiastic about you trying PCLinuxOS anymore, although if you ever have CD's to burn (no pun intended), it would make for an interesting benchmark test (cause if your machine can run KDE with no problems, there's no reason in the world for you to sacrifice all your Windows experience.... ^__^).

[NejinOniwa]

Hay guise! Not to interrupt your nice chat, but I need some dadvice here...
I just got around to burning my glorious Kubuntu Feisty LCD for my states trip this summer. And my ubuntu-using cousin says it's possible, but i don't know any commandline stuff at all, so;
HOW do you access NTFS drives from Kubuntu? There was an easy shortcut on Puppy, but i found none on Kubuntu so i felt a bit lost... -.- Health me!

[Kami-Tux]

hmmmm, I never used NTFS... the command to mount it is sudo mount $partition -t ntfs /media/windoze

$partition is the name of the partition, which has ntfs. If you do not know how these names look like, here is a small introduction: The directory /dev/ has all device-files. the first letters of the file itself refer to the driver which handles the storage-medium: hd for IDE ('harddisk'), sd for SCSI and USB ('scsi-disk') and xd for XT-harddisks (of course, that one is deprecated). the next letter is the number of the device, starting by a. For IDE-devices, /dev/hda is the primary master, /dev/hdb is the primary slave, /dev/hdc is the secondary master and /dev/hdd the secondary slave. for SCSI/USB you best run a dmesg | grep "sd.:" to find out the number since some devices hog more than one letter (USB cardreaders often take 4 letters). Or if you have no SCSI devices and just one USB-storage-device, use /dev/sda. Now, add the number of the partition. Enumeration starts by 1. You can see all partitions on $device by "sudo fdisk -l $device", ie sudo fdisk /dev/hda for your first harddisk.

If you did nnot feel like reading that sermon, use /dev/hda1 for $partition. It is most likely the one you need

Of course, /media/windoze has to exist (sudo mkdir /media/windoze creates it). If the kernel does not support ntfs, you'd have to recompile it so I hope the ubuntu-team thought of that.

[C-Chan]

Whoops,...
The Great Penguin God beat me to it.  ^^'
Well, I'll just post what I wrote and you can kind of average out the sum of our recommendations (although in my case, there's a Part 2 to follow):

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Yo Neji-san!  No problemo, I shall try to give you all the health you need.  ^___^

Yeah, Puppy works flawlessly with NTFS drives, to the point where it can't write to them without seemingly perceptible repercussions.  But Kubuntu comes with not NTFS writing support preinstalled, and nor should it cause that kinda defeats the purpose of a LiveCD (you wouldn't want to destroy the hard drive that's hosting your session, eh?).  ^.^

In any case, the *Buntu's don't automount your drives because apparently it interferes with the installation process (not sure why other distros do, however).  

Here are some things you can try to get that going, however:

1)  Go to

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Windows and try the instructions for NTFS Read Only access.  Those Sudo commands have to be typed into the Terminal,... just write them verbatim and it should do what you need to do (I think you have super-User access in the LiveCD, so you don't need a password,... if so, it's usually "root").

2) Open GParted (usually in your systems folder), and right-click on the partition to mount it (unless it automatically does so for you).

3) Right click on the taskbar, and click on Add Applets.  I don't remember at the moment, but I believe in Kubuntu has an applet where you can quickly mount any connected devices (I know Xubuntu does).

4) Consider another distros,... Kubuntu may be great, but PCLinuxOS has 10x more preinstalled programs for you to use and is also pretty-looking.  ^.^
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If you wait till I get home, I can probably give you more information (or try some of these things myself).  -v-

[NejinOniwa]

Hmmmmmmmm~
Thankiessu, Tux and senpai! I'll try them tricks out once I've got time - tomorrow's graduation ceremony for my school, though, so I've gotta sleep early tonight ^^ Then again, I'll see if i can hook up my tuxy cousin on helping me after we get home from our city trip tomorrow. Angatai!

[C-Chan]

Well yeah, preferrably it's always nice to have a Linux-user with you in person to help speed things up.  ^___^

It's still not too late to burn more distros, btw, before heading to the states -- after all, variety is the best defense again the dreaded "NoWorkism" disease that might affect your host computers.

*ponders horrible thought of Neji-san burning an i386 version of Kubuntu, only to find out that the host computer is an AMD64*  ^^;


Oh, and btw... CONGRATS GRAD!!!!  ^V^

[NejinOniwa]

Oh, no, it's nuthin' important...The big graduation is on friday, when the 3:rd-years head out - tomorrow's just closimonies for summer break. You know the deal. I'm just a first-year high schooler here, no need to bother me... -w-
Rather congratulate my tuxy cousin, who's finishing 9:th grade next week -w- He deserves it more than i do.

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Oh and thankssu for the tips on AMD64 security - still though, we don't head out until middle of July, and i'll be home for two weeks before that (rest of the summer I'll be sailing n' stuff), so there's time to prepare yet ^^ No need to act all stressed up. -w-

[Gummster]

YOU'RE GRADUATING!!

Why have I not heard this!?

[NejinOniwa]

Oh come on...it's just transition, nothing important. Just going from 1st to 2nd grade high school, don't sweat it!

...although next year I'll be holding the welcome ceremonies for the new 1st graders....MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  ;006  ;006  ;006

[Gummster]

Zhum, I was in cold swaet back there, don't scare me like that again!

[NejinOniwa]

Har har har ^^ There's two years to go before THAT happens, kinishinai de!

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Oh, and me gots to sleep now Oyasuminasai!

[Gummster]

Hai, oyasumi.

2 years 'till graduation huh, so how old are you again?

[C-Chan]

はã,,はã,,.... everyone always says it's nothing and then it ends up being something.  ^^'

In any event, hope, it's fun.  ^v^

Back to your Kubuntu LiveCD,... it's good to know we have plenty of time, but as the old saying goes, "Why wait till tomorrow to do something you could do today?"  ^___^

My AMD64 machine is occupied doing other things, so I can't try out my Kubuntu LiveCD.  However, I tested this with the Xubuntu LiveCD on another machine, so the same should hold true for Kubuntu (all the *Buntu's are essentially the same thing).

Forget Gparted (="Gnome Partition manager"), cause that only works if the partitions are already mounted (hence why this trick worked on other distros, although admittedly it IS kind of annoying when it does happen.... ^^')

Same for the Mount applet, as that one will not automount for you.

That just leaves you with the Konsole command prompt but don't worry as it's actually kind of easy.  

For regular partition mounting:

1) Create a new folder in some place accessible, such as your desktop.  If we call it Neji, the full path would be "

home/ubuntu/Desktop/Neji" (case-sensitive btw).

2)  To make things easier, go to Gnome Partition Manager (or GParted) anyway and make a note of the hard drive's partition names.  For the most part, your primary partition will be called something like "/dev/hda1".

3)  Now open the Konsole window.  Something like a DOS prompt will show up starting with "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$".

4)  At the cursor, type or copy and paste the following (given the names we used before):

sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Neji

I did guess correctly that the LiveCD provides you with superuser rights, so no need to enter a password.  Otherwise, "sudo" is the command to invoke admin privileges to a particular command -- otherwise, if you're only a user trying the same command, the system will tell you to take a hike.  ^_______^

5)  Hit Enter and you're done.  When you open that Neji folder, whatever is in that partition will be shown nice and neat.  ^__^[/list]

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Addendum:

Oh right, you wanted to mount an NTFS partition.  ^__^

In that case, do the exact same thing as above, but type (or copy and paste) this into the Konsole:

sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Neji -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222

Naturally, all the commands appended to the statement just instruct Ubuntu to give you Read writes to the NTFS partition.  Otherwise, if not for M$'s lock-in, you'd be able to access it like any other drive.  -v-

Also, I made a Linux-inspired booboo in my first example, because I assumed (thanks to my months of not using Windows... ^^') that the drive being mounted is EXT2 or 3.  For FAT drives, just add in similar-looking code:

sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Neji -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
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In any event, see how much trouble Kubuntu is making you go through?  ^___^
Like I said, it's a great system, but only a ho-hum LiveCD (cause their intention is for you to install it).  

For nice heavy-duty "Computing on the Go", you're gonna have to use something with a bit more LiveCD muscle.  ^___^

[NewYinzer]

Har har har ^^ There's two years to go before THAT happens, kinishinai de!

Graduation? Fu fu fu, I'll never reveal my age! Though, if I stay here long enough, yinz will figure it out eventually...

For nice heavy-duty "Computing on the Go", you're gonna have to use something with a bit more LiveCD muscle. ^___^

Personally, I like USB drives more. However, my school's computers do not allow booting from a USB drive. Goddang IBM's! Today C-Chan is a Linux master...tomorrow he's gonna have a beard with suspenders! Those crazy Linux gurus...

[C-Chan]

Um, should be a nice time to remind y'all that pigs can't wear suspenders..... -____-'

....

On the other hand, we can grow beards....  -v-



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And I can attest that "Linux on a Stick" is the best thing ever!!  ^v^

Observe.... ^.^

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