Gunz

IanDanKilmaster · February 19, 2009, 12:25:27 AM

Yes, amps not volts... how could I forget. *facepalm*

Pardon, that was more a mistake on my part than anything else. I used to know a good deal more about electricity, but when you fail to study a subject, mistakes like this are bound to happen.

The people I was talking to were pretty much the kind I'd call "gun-nuts", so who really knows what they're after. Anyway, I'm willing to take a shot to prove the "pro-taser" side of the argument... I say this just before I shit myself XD.

NejinOniwa · February 19, 2009, 01:19:53 AM

Those things haven't found their way over to the cold, dark north yet. We seem to be doing fine, but I guess it'd be a good thing to have them, considering their abilities...

Also this reminds me of the times I've plugged myself into a generator in physics class, and amped it up. Once you get over half an amp it starts getting REAL hot, that thing does...

CaptBrenden · February 19, 2009, 02:54:56 AM

Besides, if the taser caused permenent damage, I really dont think police and secuirty officers, myself included would be volenteering to get tased. From personal experience I can tell you its one of the most devestating things you can get hit with, incapacitating you almost instantly, yet almost the instant it shut off it wore off and I was able to stand up and shake it off.

Plus, in some cases its more effective then a gun, even if lethal force is autorized. A guy on PCP can punch through a windsheild and break every bone in their hand and not feel it. they can toss officers that try to swarm them, and they could take a box of bullets before they go down, but the taser gets instant incapacitation with no lost of life. Tase, cuff durring the 5 second window of oppertunity, and youve bagged yourself a druggie.

some taser vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKbplNGhDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNpT-lZLC4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBoxUH9kJxQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2g8UqWH1jU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncMrAt5gE4&feature=related

Notice how most of those people scream alot during, but have a good laugh almost instantly after

Added after 18 minutes:

Future weapons segment on it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeu7JIUk3MU&feature=related

VonDaab · February 19, 2009, 04:41:49 AM

AAWWWWWWWW YEEEEAHHHHHHH!
The only thing this thread was lacking was some Mack Machovics. And now Capt brought him.

CaptBrenden · February 19, 2009, 11:22:07 AM

Cus no one knows weapons like he knows weapons lawl

NejinOniwa · February 19, 2009, 11:36:53 AM

But whear is mai railgun?
;_;

CaptBrenden · February 19, 2009, 11:43:06 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OqlTXwLG40

NejinOniwa · February 19, 2009, 11:57:47 AM

->- Meh.

Not sexy enough. -.-

CaptBrenden · February 19, 2009, 12:06:31 PM

too bad, for the forseable future thats all your getting. Like I said, there is no man pad railgun

IanDanKilmaster · February 19, 2009, 03:58:55 PM

QuoteBesides, if the taser caused permenent damage, I really dont think police and secuirty officers, myself included would be volenteering to get tased. From personal experience I can tell you its one of the most devestating things you can get hit with, incapacitating you almost instantly, yet almost the instant it shut off it wore off and I was able to stand up and shake it off.

In the videos I've seen it was said that getting tased is a part of the procedure to be authorized to use a taser. Like I said before, I don't really see a problem with a taser and would be willing to take a shot myself to prove such a point. I was mostly interested to see if this had become a controversial topic elsewhere as well.

Since it seems there's no avoiding the subject, I guess I'll ask, wasn't there a railgun in the movie Eraser as well?

Smokey · February 19, 2009, 04:05:06 PM

Besides handheld rapid fire doesn't work...
For example an uzi or mac-11 doesn't shoot a person, it shoots in his/her general direction..

If you want instant incapacitation, get a taser indeed... if you want a bloody mess get .50 magnum with hollow point bullets, or a twelve-gauge... (shotguns with buckshot are also handy when you can't aim ^_^)

And in the case you cant get a firearm, get a collapsible baton...
Easy to carry and packs a nice punch...

As for railguns, or other guns involving magnetic propulsion, we've still got a long way to go...
Plus i think that by that time we'll also have lethal lasers-guns...

VonDaab · February 19, 2009, 04:30:51 PM

Smokey....
Eh, I'm too tired to start arguing about those...

Also, post #777 GET.

CaptBrenden · February 19, 2009, 04:41:23 PM

Well its always been a controversial topic, even when the use record was clean. Like I said, people an unatural fear of it. Those officers and volenteers knew they were going to be tased and were able to laugh it off after wards, but if your a shithead resisting a cop out in the real world and you get hit with it, its a far more unpleasent happening.

Lol drunk redneck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRb4f8mobfE

awesome compilation of videos for traffic stops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEAqJ0BPd0g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1PmUs1Ivk&feature=related
on of my favorite, with better commentary then I could do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtxSM-73_E&feature=related

now watch these two videos. The first is a video as the anti taser types put out as "taser" abuse. The second is the uncut footage. I dont think I need to even say anything for the full footage, it will speak for itself:
First:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkfkQcb45Lo&feature=related
second:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N6yP3nwVfw

What is that? Nothing but the twisting fact and trying to spin a completley differnt story.

If there is anything that you should take away from this, its that the best and easiest way not to get tased, is to simply comply with the officers orders. If you ever belive a police officer is in the wrong, contest it in court later, you have a chance of winning there. Argue on the side of the road, you loose.

as for eraser, yeah I think that was a railgun, but again, like the man pad miniguns, it does not exist. It takes a warehouse of capacitors and equipment to make a railgun work

Smokey · February 19, 2009, 05:21:50 PM

I got an error on the second vid, but i can relate to the cops though, we get a lot of traffic offenders who won't comply or get agressive here too...
And besides, better a taser than the stick...

As for a man-portable minigun... There was a prototype... So, officially, it does exist...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM214_Microgun

VonDaab · February 19, 2009, 05:49:48 PM

Who needs a Railgun or a Minigun, when you can simply achieve the same awesome with a .50caliber Machine Gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwu3ivAJ68U&feature=channel_page