Let's talk about cartoons (USA, Europe, Corea, etc. - Not japananime)

Nichi · July 24, 2012, 08:40:30 AM

Slightly off topic, but James Cameron's Avatar sucked. I went to see it in theaters in 3D, and all I can remember was that it was pretty and that the main villain was a badass (He was just as bad as Liquid Snake in Metal Gear Solid; just when you think he's finally dead, he gets right back up and continues fighting). As for The Last Airbender, I already shared my thoughts on it earlier.

Back on topic, has anybody else ever seen The Super Mario Bros. Super Show? Like a lot of DIC's video game-related productions, it's a guilty pleasure of mine :3

Chocofreak13 · July 24, 2012, 05:16:12 PM

i found a DVD for it in my brother's jeep once. but there was no disc. :\

@nej: so you haven't seen it either? dude, the movie can't compare to the series.

Raffaele the Amigan · August 03, 2012, 06:42:08 PM

Quote from: PentiumMMX on July 24, 2012, 08:40:30 AM
Slightly off topic, but James Cameron's Avatar sucked. I went to see it in theaters in 3D, and all I can remember was that it was pretty and that the main villain was a badass (He was just as bad as Liquid Snake in Metal Gear Solid; just when you think he's finally dead, he gets right back up and continues fighting).

Avatar is good because is a straight linear movie of western sci-fi... There is the cavalry (air cavalry) closed in a fort (the mine) and outside there are blue indians 9 feet of height... and the villains are us white humans in the fort...

Raffaele the Amigan · August 03, 2012, 06:54:03 PM

What you think of co-operation of western and far-east anine makers?

There are projects that I like very much, as Sherlock Hound by Hayao Miyazaki and Marco Pagot, and Oban Star Racers by Jetix, France 3 and Bandai...

Chocofreak13 · August 05, 2012, 01:32:24 PM

ooo, those look interesting. :0
though wouldn't they fall under anime due to the style? :\

Nichi · August 05, 2012, 01:40:33 PM

I think I remember seeing ads for Oban Star Racers, when it still came on Toon Disney, but I never watched it. I think it always came on at a time I had something else on :\

Chocofreak13 · August 05, 2012, 04:09:27 PM

i should look them up. :3

stewartsage · August 05, 2012, 05:18:04 PM

Why does everyone feel compelled to give Sherlock Holmes a leading lady?

NejinOniwa · August 05, 2012, 09:22:09 PM

Because otherwise he would understand everything in the movie, duh.

He needs someone to miff him out. His genius is not compatible with the female psyche.

stewartsage · August 05, 2012, 10:15:54 PM

That's silly.

Raffaele the Amigan · August 06, 2012, 03:11:37 AM

Quote from: stewartsage on August 05, 2012, 05:18:04 PM
Why does everyone feel compelled to give Sherlock Holmes a leading lady?

Actually she pretends to be the landlady, Mrs. Hudson.

But in the anime she is the most quiet, intelligent and human character. So Miyazaki wanted to make her the only real human in a world of human dogs but Marco Pagot adviced him that was inappropriate for the european public...

As being a widow and the only woman of which Sherlock Hound trusts in, it seems evident judging from certain episodes that there is something tender between the two...

Raffaele the Amigan · August 06, 2012, 05:17:54 AM

Quote from: Chocofreak13 on August 05, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
ooo, those look interesting. :0
though wouldn't they fall under anime due to the style? :\

Well... That's a matter of serious discussion about genres and categories of anime...

Chocofreak13 · August 06, 2012, 02:35:27 PM

@raffaele: i really don't think so, since it was made by a japanese man, and is done in anime style. if you're basing it for "regular cartoon" status based solely on content, well, i could cite several examples to counter-argue. :\

@stew: because if they didn't, it'd be bashed for being sexist, even if they're sticking to the original story?
and as it is, they're taking quite a bit of artistic license making them dogs. dropping in a chick to make the characters a bit richer isn't the worst thing in the world. :\
@nej: this is true of most men, lol. it's why they're so easy to confuse. :3

guys, i'm curious, is a cartoon considered anime if it's not from japan, but still in the style? tbh i think most asian cartoons might fall within the umbrella term's range. :\

also, was at the market earlier, saw a couple Sonic The Hedgehog DVDs and The Super Mario Bros. Show DVDs. xD
(they're a little pricey since they're $5 each, but still, cool. xD )

Raffaele the Amigan · August 07, 2012, 08:03:06 AM

Quote from: Chocofreak13 on August 06, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
@raffaele: i really don't think so, since it was made by a japanese man, and is done in anime style. if you're basing it for "regular cartoon" status based solely on content, well, i could cite several examples to counter-argue. :\

The real question is: Did Miyazaki had had created such a cartoonime (cartoon/anime) if Pagot had not contacted and hired Studio Ghibli to realize the animations?

Did Bandai had had created Oban Star Racers if not contacted and hired by Jetix and France3?

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guys, i'm curious, is a cartoon considered anime if it's not from japan, but still in the style? tbh i think most asian cartoons might fall within the umbrella term's range. :\

Dunno... So for example you consider Avatar the last airbender as a cartoon or as an anime??? It was created by american artists. The design is american but the animation was made in Korea ( China?)

Bella · August 07, 2012, 12:46:49 PM

I consider anime to be Japanese-produced animation, regardless of what the visual style is.

I'd consider any kind of Western-produced animation a cartoon, even if the visual style is animesque.

IDK how to classify other East-Asian forms of animation. I'd probably just classify them by their nation of origin - Korean animation, Chinese animation, etc.