OS-tan Annex Project Revival

[Aurora Borealis]

So, Yamada is actually a prototypical 98-tan? Interesting.

Unfortunately, Windows 1.0 and 2.0 were exiled from the family during the OS Wars. 3.1, NT and 95 knew them, but 3.1 only has a patchy memory of them (oooh... was that part of her memory wiped by the executives? The plot thickens!), but NT and 95 barely interacted with them.

But since 95 and NT were training, and 1.0 and 2.0 weren't, the two pairs were kept separate from each other as often as possible. 1.0's and 2.0's presence, and their lack of belligerence would have 'weakened NT's and 95's fighting spirit', or so the Family executives say...

95, in fact, saw them as a disgrace because of their lack of belligerence, and inability to fight. It's worth mentioning that NT and 95 were subjected to some conditioning techniques (comparable to those of Gunslinger Girl) that made them very powerful, but at a cost. Revisionist policies in the Family also forbid ever speaking of 1.0-tan, and 2.0-tan, along with Xenix, QDOS's involvement, OS/2 as being family, among other things.
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TL;DR: So, yes, 1.0 and 2.0 were exiled by executive orders, and later Windows don't consider them family, if they know of them at all. The Windows-tans wouldn't exist without 1.0-tan, but she was exiled after she and 2.0 "outlived their usefulness".


However, on a bittersweet note,  1.0 and 2.0 consider all the Windows-tans family, even if they've never been able to meet most of them. They are still loyal members of the Binteeji Renmei though.

[NejinOniwa]

NT is most definitely one of the current matriarchs. Whether 95 or 3.1 holds the DOS-age spot for that is debatable, but NT is the prime reason for their continued supremacy, after all.

[stewartsage]

SCOPE, as Chippewa Falls OS is the founder/matriarch of the CDC operating system line (as much as MACE would dispute that) and is firmly the leader of the CDC family as a whole. 

LINC is the progenitor of just as many PDP's as PDP-1 was, into on even into the seventies.  However, considering her status in her own family I'd definitely agree PDP-1 has the superior position.

Don't forget IBM-610!  She has a -tan and is older then IBM 710.

As far as it goes, GMOS is considered nigh a god amongst the later generations of IBM OS-tans... though to the generations of hardware/other early OS-tans that knew her she was considered more of an upstart/annoyance/drama queen.  I'd say she's the best pick for what the powerful OS-tans would consider a matriarch/founder.

*EDITED FOR CLARITY*

On the subject of Whirlwind as matriarch/founder of the MIT dynasty.... I would hesitate to even give MIT a 'family' status.  They're too diverse, unrelated, and divided to really be considered a separate entity from any number of others.  Look at the -tans that exist; only Whirlwind, ITS, and CTSS are what could be properly called MIT-tans.  LINC was originally an MIT and that's what she would self-identify as, but for all real purposes she's a DEC now.  Multics, UNIX, SAGE, PDP-1, and SABRE all have MIT ties but none of them are really MIT-tans no matter what their heritage is.  So I'd say class 'MIT' as more as a heritage thing, like the ceremonial counties of Britain; it serves no real function but it's a nice historical note.

And as far as Whirlwind being that leader/mother of an MIT family.... I'd say no, she lacked the health for it by the time there were any more other computers at the school beyond herself.  Plus, her only daughters as MIT would see it would be SAGE which was fundamentally a dead end for them anyway (and was technically a Lincoln Labs product).  Post-1959 you'd be very lucky to find Whirlwind conscious for more then a few hours, maybe a day, at a time, so I'd say no to SAGE.

Nitpick time!

AN/FSQ

Folks, it's the AN/FSQ-7.  AN/FSQ is an Air Force prefix for a whole range of computers made by various manufacturers for a general purpose, it doesn't specifically mean the famous SAGE computer (SAGE had a second smaller computer known as the AN/FSQ-8, the -7 was for Direction Central and the -8 for Control Central).

Army Navy / Fixed Special or Combination Q Special or combination - ##

[Aurora Borealis]

Thanks for clearing those up, stew!

So SCOPE is the matriarch, founder, and leader of the CDCs! She is the judge, jury and executioner!

Which PDPs were directly descended from LINC? And although she was the mother to many PDPs, would she be regarded as a matriarch figure among the DECs, even though she didn't have much loyalty towards them?

Well, at the very least, Whirlwind was the first of the MITs, and had three highly influential descendants who branched off to form their own dynasties. So with the distinct, separate branches, it's hard to have a unified leader. In other words, no leader of ALL MIT-tans, but the branches have their own leaders?

And thanks clearing up what the AN/FSQ-7 model name means! ^^;


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Been updating the wiki, now have the infoboxes up for the Windows Family, House of Mac, Binteeji Renmei and Anti$oft Coalition. Will add the rest later.

[stewartsage]

No problem!

She certainly is, and is very satisfied with those positions despite NOS' treacherous attempts to displace her and MACE's.... rabble rousing (Funfact: MACE is partially inspired by socialist labor organizer Eugene V. Debbs!)

LINC was the direct mother of PDP-4, PDP-5, LINC-8, PDP-12, and the godmother-ish to PDP-11 and any/all PDP-8 operating systems.  No, she wouldn't be considered a matriarch at all; she was almost universally ignored or despised by the DEC-tans that followed in her steps with the exception of her *cough* wife PDP-8.

That's the thing, of those daughters only one was really an MIT.  SAGE is as much IBM/Lincoln Labs/Rayethon/Western Electric/Bell Labs system as an MIT even if her mother is what I'd call one of the three real MIT-tans.  PDP-1 was developed eventually from Whirlwind, but she was thoroughly a DEC with very little contact with her 'mother'.  Of the three, CTSS isn't really a daughter of Whirlwind being an OS; like CTSS adopted/looked after Multics, Whirlwind as the only other MIT computer at the time was responsible for raising CTSS.  Since she stayed at MIT, SAGE had a greater chance to interact with her and thus the half-sistership.  As it stands CTSS is really the only MIT-tan that wasn't a dead end system MIT wise (SABRE would be an IBM and BUIC a Burroughs by birth), however, her students included Multics (um, not sure what she is officially, but not an MIT), ITS (the MIT), CP/CMS (an IBM).  So her MIT lineage is really only continues to ITS... which doesn't make for much of a family per-say.  That's the thing, the MIT 'family' is too polyglot and later bought/employed by commercial companies to really be an independent family.

You're welcome   To be honest, I am a bit tired of explaining it to Bells though : |

[Krizonar]

/states at text wall

/tilts head

[Bella]

Ooooh, am I ever gonna rip all this to shreds with my INSANE AND 100% AIRTIGHT THEORIES based on my impeccable knowledge of the MIT-tans and Olde Tyme New Englande Computer society.

But, later. I need to upload some diagrams and this AWESOME OS-TAN TREE OF LIFE I DREW~~~

Just rest assured with the knowledge that I shall be proposing that:
-The MIT-tans aren't a family but a race/ethnicity, comprising both hardware and software;
-They had a distinctive code of ethics not unlike the "Unix Philosophy";
-Whirlwind was a figurehead with Multics as an acting leader (who, while not comatose, didn't do much actual leading either);
-How their negligence eventually led to a bloodless microcomputer coup;
-And how the MIT's Hacker Culture was established
-And how THEY were eventually "destroyed from only slightly without (ie: DEC's hacker culture)"

[Bella]

DEFINING THE MIT TREE OF LIFE: Part I

Things to keep in mind before you read this:

The hypothese presented herein are based on my research in computer history, regional studies and knowledge of OS-tan mythology; you are free to dismiss them, but I take these for fact (and they will be incorporated into the mythos of my OS-tan stories):

#1) That most MIT-tans are connected by shared hardware (all having direct ties to Whirlwind, IBM 7090 and the PDP line)

#2) Many MIT-tans are connected by shared programmers

#3) FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT "FAMILY". The human idea of blood relationship is moot in a world where (what amounts to) cloning and genetic modification are common and children are "created", not born.

#4) On that note, remember the New Englande-y notion that family isn't limited to individuals sharing blood relations; and the idea of regional ancestry (a person being classified by their regionality, NOT nationality or ethnic ancestry). "Regionality" here will refer to MIT, Cambridge or the greater Boston Metro region, depending on the case.

#5) The older a -tan, the more it relied on its hardware and the more the line between hardware and software is blurred (until there is NO distinction between the two)

MIT OS-tans: The Earliest Generations

Whirlwind was the first computer-tan at MIT and the second in the Boston Metro area.  Her creation was inspired by ENIAC, but they're not related, even under the system of intellectual ancestry that comes up often in the OS-tanverse (since there is NOTHING connecting the two beside the fact that her creators saw ENIAC and thought it'd be awesome to have "one of their own"). Whirlwind directly inspired the creation of SAGE and IBM AN/FSQ-7. (Irregardless of the creator's intentions, I consider SAGE-tan to encompass the AN/FSQ-7 computer; in other words, that she represents both the system hardware and software. In fact, this is the only way that SAGE-tan could be alive today, since pieces of her hardware self exist even if the software that operated them is long gone). So far, we have:

Whirlwind -> SAGE (via regionality + software influences + hardware influences [AN/FSQ-7])

Now, the IBM 7090 computer is a solid-state reimplementation of the IBM AN/FSQ-7. IF you believe that SAGE-tan = the SAGE system hardware and software as I do, this means 7090-kun is related to SAGE and Whirlwind. HOW will be left intentionally unclear because of #3 on the above list.

CTSS was written for the IBM 7094 computer, a slightly modified 7090. While 7090-kun DOES exist, 7094 DOES NOT EXIST and I personally consider CTSS-tan a catchall representing OS and hardware. (This is supported by the fact that CTSS was never ported). So now we have:

Whirlwind -> CTSS (via regionality + hardware influences [7090/94])

Multics ran on the GE 635 and 345 series computers and later the Honeywell 6180. The GE 635/45 was a copy of the IBM 7094. The H-6180 was a modified GE 635/45. Furthermore, Multics was very heavily inspired by CTSS. Programming work on Multics was done by GE (later Honeywell), Bell Labs (who were wishy-washy on the project and eventually dropped out) and MIT. But all the non-MIT companies abandoned it at one point or another and the majority of the design work was done on-site at MIT.

This establishes our mother/daughter connection between CTSS-tan and Multics-tans; and Multics' status as an undisputed MIT-tan. This gives us:

Whirlwind -> CTSS (via regionality + 7090/94) -> Multics (regionality + software influence + hardware influence)

CTSS also gave us CP/CMS and ITS (both via regionally and software influence, despite having QUITE different hardware from that which CTSS uses).

Now for the Whirlwind - PDP-1 connection. In OS-tan canon, Whirlwind was TRANSFORMED into TX-0. Something discovered during this process led to the creation of PDP-1-tan. Since the PDP-1 was a modified TX-0 which was a transistorized Whirlwind, this gives us a quite clear cut case that:

Whirlwind -> PDP-1 (regionality + hardware influence)

The first PDP-1 created was debuted in Cambridge in 1959 or 60 and given to MIT; where it was kept in the room next to TX-0 at the Artificial Intelligence Lab (later known as CSAIL). MIT's PDP-1 established the "Hacker Culture" at the university, which was among the - if not THE - first Hacker Cultures of the day. This means PDP-1-tan would've been something of a spiritual (if not blood) ancestor to the Inseparable-from-her-PDP-10 Hacker Guru ITS-tan. PDP-1-tan lived at MIT and only visited DEC on occasion (with others, notably TOPS-10, taking the place as leader). This quite cements PDP-1-chan's place as an MIT-tan in my opinion.

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[Aurora Borealis]

@stew: Didn't realize there were that few actual MIT-tans! I had remembered that BUIC was born and raised in the Burroughs 'clan'(?), but just couldn't remember what SABRE's clan was. Now I know she's an IBM, but from reading Bella's response, I can still see how CP/CMS is still under the same regionality/race as the true MITs.

I had thought that CP/CMS was an MIT-tan because she was one of CTSS's students. Ahahaha.... ^^;

@Bella: You win a bunch of internets for typing up and explaining all of that! If someone gets to writing an article on OS-tan families/cultures and the mechanics behind them, these ideas would be very useful for explaining them.

Yes, I knew that the idea of family as we know it does not exist in the OS-tanverse. In a sense, the Windows and Mac/Apple families (and presumably the DECs) each fall under that more lenient definition of family, since within those families, their branches are united culturally if not by blood.

Would PDP-1-chan be considered multicultural, due to her ties to both MIT and DEC, although she mainly lived with the former?

[Chocofreak13]

/states at text wall

/tilts head

i read almost all of it....and idk what to say. ;__;

@aurora: yeah, there's a few pics of her as a 98-tan. she was supposed to be an OL-type, but i don't think nijura took the day job very well. :\
in my comic (haven't drawn this part yet, but planning to), yamada is the 98 quatuplet's absentee mother. having gotten preggers young and not being able to support her kids, she left them with her sister and went off to take an office job. she sends part of her monthly salary to 95 to help with expenses. :\ no one knows about her except for 95 and 3.1.

[Aurora Borealis]

@Choco: That works too, I realize we're discussing two separate OS-tan universes/continuities which I think are equally valid. Speaking of which, when we get to rewriting the articles for the canon OS-tans, we should include a section on alternate interpretations throughout different continuities to keep track of them.

@Stew: I saw your edited post a few posts back, about the status of the MIT dynasty, and I agree with it. I should have been more clear, but what you said is much like what I had guessed about the MITs. I knew that 'family' might not be the right term to use since many of those characters of MIT background/heritage have relatively little in common and went their separate ways. So the whole MIT thing isn't truely a family or even a multi-branch dynasty (too diversified for even that), mainly a collective ancestral background for those characters.

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Added the rest of the Annex Project faction logos, and onto the project's index page to prettify it!

[Chocofreak13]

it's so pretty!! ^^ and who's the DOSSE's benefactor...? :3 (curious)
perhaps "tribe" would be the right term for MIT, or maybe more like "organization", since "tribe" implies unity. xD
i wish the theory thread hadn't died, cause we could have debated it there. but thankyou for not dismissing my ideas. ^^ people who don't, can't, or won't recognize that the OS-tans are a fanmade thing shouldn't be advising theories, since theories means that they must be open to other ideas. :\

[Aurora Borealis]

The DOSSE's benefactress is the mainframe VSE-tan (aka: DOS/360). She's one of the friendlier mainframes still in the Mainframe Guild, and she only shares a namesake with the DOSes, but was sympathetic to their plight and made arrangements so the DOS family could meet up and unite.

Technically the Windows, DECs and Macs are tribes since they have separate bloodlines united through shared culture. However, I listed the Windows and Macs as multi-clan dynasties, but wonder if 'tribe' would be more accurate. :-/

The DECs are a military family/tribe.

[Chocofreak13]

i think both terms might be used interchangeably. :\

[Bella]

I had thought that CP/CMS was an MIT-tan because she was one of CTSS's students. Ahahaha.... ^^;

No, no, no, CP/CMS IS a MIT-tan. She was designed, born and raised at MIT (as opposed to the "true" IBM-tans, who all originated in Armonk or one of the other IBM territories). Remember: the IBM-tans dislike MIT (and the Bostonian OS-tan society as a whole) with a furious zeal. That was the culture they feared and hated more than any other; any of their kind who have been touched by that cursed Northern society are as good as dead to them.

I mean, look at the track record - among Bostonian IBM-tans we have:
-Harvard Mark I, who was mutually divorced from IBM
-CP/CMS, who gave IBM her child(?) VM/CMS but didn't contribute much and was abandoned quite quickly
-CTSS, who didn't really do anything for IBM
-SAGE, who's source was used (without her permission) to create a daughter, SABRE (much in the style of VMS -> Windows NT)

...and none of these -tans are really remembered in IBM culture, even by their contemporaries.

Of course this was only in the old days of the classical mainframe; they aren't quite as proud or nationalistic nowadays. Their willing support of the half-Cantabrigian Linux-tan stands in testament to this fact....

@Bella: You win a bunch of internets for typing up and explaining all of that! If someone gets to writing an article on OS-tan families/cultures and the mechanics behind them, these ideas would be very useful for explaining them.

Thank you very much. I want to do a series of these. ^^

Would PDP-1-chan be considered multicultural, due to her ties to both MIT and DEC, although she mainly lived with the former?

PDP-1-tan is a lot like CP/CMS in this sense; DEC in name, but spectacularly MITish in upbringing and affiliation. Really. I mean, she was created or born or whatever at DEC and did her initial schooling there, but was spent most of her time at MIT. She was never a leader at DEC; that task was given to TOPS 10-tan early on (in the days when she was a nameless PDP-6 operating system). She's the one who established most of what we recognize in DEC culture; their military order among it. (Before her, it was a much more disorganized "tribe").

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One last note, Aurora-sama; in the House of Mac wiki bio, Snow Leopard is listed as the House's leader. I very highly doubt this; remember, Leopard (in her Snow form or not) has no interest in or experience with leading and is a rather solitary and socially-withdrawn individual. Tiger-tan is the only (OSXen) leader I can envision in the Mac family; at least until Lion-tan is powerful enough to take the lead. -W-